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- deer sized game in cover, 308 works better in short bbls
Hmm, you know for a fact 308s work better in short BBLs? In what way?
- deer sized game long range, magnums are flatter shooting
so`s a 25-06, I suppose it`s a better choice too?. Beside I`ve never seen a 458 mag load that was flatter shootin` then an `06
- elk sized game in cover again 308 or similar is more ideal
I suppose that 308 pill bucks brush better then the 30-06s?
- elk sized game long range, again a magnum is better
Lets see....a slower same wgt bullet from a 308 is better up close but you need a faster bullet out farther. Then again maybe you`re suggesting that 458 mag
- big bears, 06 is not enough gun
I`ll be sure to get a 308 if I ever hunt Grizzly
- dangerous game, 06 again is not suitable
Don`t know, I`ve heard a much smaller gun working a rattler over prety well once.
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still havnt heard a single situation where the 30 06 is the best choice, bassically there is no argument the 30 06 is a compromise no matter what. and a crossbow is a better hunting tool than a compound thats why i use it if i was allowed to use a gun i would have and it sure as sh&t wouldnt have been some lame 30 06 Why can't you use a gun, are you a felon?
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When I wore out the barrel of my 30-06, I paid Pac-Nor good money to rebarrel to... Drum roll... 30-06! Wonderful caliber, just wonderful. While it's certainly a bit much for our blacktails around here, the two I've killed with one fell at the shot and that was that.
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pic of "great for nothing" results last Sunday evening in the Texas hill country. by the way the '06 is superior to the 308 on elk due to its ability to launch 180 grain and heavier slugs that should be used for elk faster. http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg254/colthbar/DSC00442.jpg
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The '06 hits so hard they stick to a wall 
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Okay, Big Cheese, Let me try again.
You said, "30 06 good for everything great for nothing."
In addition to being widely useful, the 30-06 is a fantastic moose rifle. (Last time I checked - and I've checked more than a couple of dozen times- moose are not "nothing").
The first moose I killed - perhaps before you were born, at least while your diapers were still soggy- that moose took one slug from my old '06 right through the lungs, flopped right there before my eyes. The most recent, a shot at 399 yards, the same version of death: a 190 grain BTSP Hornady InterLock, zipped through chest diagonally and out again. Didn't just flop like the one 20 some previous. It stood as they often do even when whacked by bigger, faster bullets, for a few seconds, then layed down and died.
I have killed moose with 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm, 30 cal, 34 cal, 35 cal, and 45 cal, and seen the killed by more. None has worked better than the old 30-06. Now, can you honestly say it isn't a great moose caliber? (I know I can't.)
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ok fine the 30 06 is the broke mans rifle. obama isnt president yet and the last time i checked americans are allowed to own more than one rifle. even if all you had was 2 the 06 would be a bad choice. Tabasco, or just salt and pepper on your paint chips today?
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"not everyone is foolishly loyal to 100 year old junk cartridges deal with it dont pout and whine like a little girl "
Just re-read your post Big Chief, A cartridge doesn't become one of the most popular in North America and live to be 100 by being junk.........
I have used a .30-06 for hunting my whole life everything from coyote's to moose and caribou, I live in Northern Canada and this rifle has proven it self for me more times than I can count there are alot of great rounds out there but to me and many folks I hunt with the 06 is a great round for just about anything that walks in front of you, including school children who should be studying for there spelling test instead of wasting there time on the net talking about something they have no knowledge of.
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Big chief, how long did it take you to dream up this ridiculous post?
Counseling dude, you need it.
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man the 30 06 basically is a useless caliber unless you like junk. first of all i would challenge anyone to name a situation where there isnt a better caliber for the job.
- deer sized game in cover, 308 works better in short bbls
- deer sized game long range, magnums are flatter shooting
- elk sized game in cover again 308 or similar is more ideal
- elk sized game long range, again a magnum is better
- big bears, 06 is not enough gun
- dangerous game, 06 again is not suitable
so dont bother to rant on about your 3006 being all you need because i agree but there is no doubt that the 06 your lugging around all over the place is nothing but a compromise and there will always be a better tool for the job. kind of like using a ratchet as a hammer, weve all done it and it works but it works like crap Now those are some fine words of wisdom. However, given that they come from a guy with no idea how to field dress his kill ( Deer Down - Now What?), it's hard to believe these words come from any real-life experience using the .30-06 and any other cartridges. Perhaps he really has shot many head of many types of game, in many different types of terrain, using many, many different rifle cartridges... and never had to field dress any of the animals he's killed...As with all information - consider the source.
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Big Chiefs is right. His crossbow is a much better truck weapon, especially in the middle of the night. It's so nice and quiet it doesn't wake anyone up.
I own 11 rifles, including a .308. I have used all but one on deer, and they ALL killed them great. There is just something special about my " Broke Mans " NULA 30-06 that causes me to use it about 90% of the time. I've taken Moose and Caribou with it also, and it sure makes them dead at ranges a lot farther than I should be shooting.
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shot some big whitetail with 30-06 killed them as DEAD AS ANY OTHER CALIBER
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30 06 is one great caliber thats for sure. versatile as all hell especially when you are a handloader. if your going to own just one rifle an 06 is a great choice. you can load 150 grain bullets for laser flat trajectory or load 220 gr to hit hard up close, anything in between is hardly a bad choice either. i personally am not interested in owning one for whatever reason but if youve got one and like to shoot it youd be hard pressed to find a more ideal rifle for any game north america has to offer.
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still havnt heard a single situation where the 30 06 is the best choice, bassically there is no argument the 30 06 is a compromise no matter what. and a crossbow is a better hunting tool than a compound thats why i use it if i was allowed to use a gun i would have and it sure as sh&t wouldnt have been some lame 30 06 Why can't you use a gun, are you a felon? yes i was charged for being too sexy and as a result all of my firearms were confiscated. ever heard of bow season??
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I'm pretty sure you meds aren't right yet.
Or you're just plain dumb, you contradict yourself severl times on this thread alone.
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Gees I thought Chief had to be joking when he posted the title 
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I put those like Big_Chief on ignore right away. There is so much to do, so much to read. No sense wasting time.
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I once read that a lot of older houses had lead based paints on the wall.
The ingestion of such paint could actually lead to measurable cognitive impairment.
That might explain a lot.
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"not everyone is foolishly loyal to 100 year old junk cartridges deal with it dont pout and whine like a little girl "
Just re-read your post Big Chief, A cartridge doesn't become one of the most popular in North America and live to be 100 by being junk.........
How does the 30-06 become the compromise cartridge if it was here first???
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man the 30 06 basically is a useless caliber unless you like junk. first of all i would challenge anyone to name a situation where there isnt a better caliber for the job.
- deer sized game in cover, 308 works better in short bbls
- deer sized game long range, magnums are flatter shooting
- elk sized game in cover again 308 or similar is more ideal
- elk sized game long range, again a magnum is better
- big bears, 06 is not enough gun
- dangerous game, 06 again is not suitable
so dont bother to rant on about your 3006 being all you need because i agree but there is no doubt that the 06 your lugging around all over the place is nothing but a compromise and there will always be a better tool for the job. kind of like using a ratchet as a hammer, weve all done it and it works but it works like crap Your opinion, to which you are entitled...........fortunately for me I don't share it!!!
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