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BINGO brother Rich!

i can attest to the fact that the "Roy" will slam your poor shoulder! i am 6'4" 260lbs. and i can only shoot mine a half dozen times or so before i'm hurtin! i have a 700 BDL S.S. with a synthetic that absorbs no recoil at all. i am really considering having it ported this spring. also the dang thing is expensive to shoot, and reload, for that matter.

Limbsavers

I can take the weatherby from prone in a MkV, but who wants to when you can shoot an equally effective cartridge, but one that kicks you much less?

If you wanna tell people you shoot a 300WBY then get it. But, it won't do anything the WSM won't do, with the exception of impress you on the chrono. No elk is gonna be able to tell the difference between a 180gr bullet from a 300WSM or 300WBY. Besides, in all reality, you don't need a 300 to kill an elk anyway. All the really hard chore elk hunters I know shoot 270's, 30-06's, or 7mm's. But then again, those guys have shot more elk then most of us ever will. And I have the feeling they would have no problem killing just as many elk with a 257 wby and a 120gr partition comming out of the barrel at 3300fps.. But then again, theres no room for common sense on the Fire. You really do need the 300WBY in addition to your WSM and 257....

I own 2 300 WBYs one in a Vanguard and one in Mark V. I have shot the crap out the Vanguard. I also have the 300 WSM and I just don't like the cartridge. The Roy will give you an honest 3200 fps with the 180s and I don't find the recoil bad at all. I'll burn 2 or 3 boxes a session and I'm not sore after it. I have used a lot of the Remington brass and have gotten several loadings out of it, so brass cost is not that much different. Loading 80 grains + will eat a pound of powder quick! You can always load the WBY down to the WSM but can't load the WSM up to the Weatherby! I say go for it and get the real 300 magnum performance.

Get a 338Winnie ... would it be a simple rechamber? or is the winnie too broad at the shoulder?

Why don't you get a 308 Win for deer hunting and a 300 WBY "just in case" for elk?

I can't fathom shooting MN deer in the woods with a 300 Wby, but that's just me.

I had a 300 Weatherby Mark 5 and changed it to a 300 JARRETT AND COULD NOT BE HAPPIER.

A 300 Mag will flatten a deer DRT!



grin

At 50 yards, so will a 308 WIn... I've done it more than once!

so will a .308

PS, Sam... deer in the woods of MN are shot at under 100 yards, and usually a lot less than 100 yards... been there, done that. A 308 is north-woods whitetail poison par-excellence!

Couple things...

The 300 Wby will punish you considerably more, which may or may not be an issue.

Unless you load your own, you'll pay more for ammo, with less to pick from.

There's nothing the Wby will kill that the WSM won't.

Some might argue that the Remington is a superior rifle, too, and probably weighs less.

FWIW.

Sounds like the cottonwood riverbottoms back home. Of course there's a few big alfalfa fields in between.

Come on. Ya'll act like a 300 Roy is some shoulder mounted cannon or something and chews bits of ball joint with each trigger pull. I agree, it'll get your attention, but it's not painful. Mine's a Vanguard. I just loaded up some 165 Sierras tonight with 67 and 68 grs. of IMR4064. Should go around 2900 and 3000fps respectively. That's close to '06 velocities and these are Sierra book loads, from an old book mind you, as I don't have one of their new ones. I can run it hot or I can load it down. I choose to load down for whitetails and if I want I can charge it up to chase bigger critters or to flatten it out for open country hunting. It really is a versatile round. Is reported to be a superb candidate for 200gr. bullets.

David

The bad thing is , you are more or less trading a $500 rifle on a $400 rifle , and you are going to take a beating .

Funny , the 30wsm and the 300 Roy are the 2 300 cartridges that interest me , and I did quite a bit of shooting with both last year . The wsm in a synthetic stock weighs maybe a bit over 8lbs and shoots 180s around 3000 . The Roy is in a Vanguard with a laminate stock , weighs probably over 9lbs and shoots 200 s to 3000 .

Blindfolded and with muffs , there is no way I could tell you which gun I'm shooting . There just ain't that much difference in the kick.....take off the muffs , and the Roy definately has more blast .


To my notion , the plain Vanguard has a really evil feeling stock .


I like Brad's idea, 308 for whitetail , Roy for elk .


If there can be only one , if I was you I would stick with the WSM .

Look, this stuff is our hobby. Do what makes you happy and you have the most fun doing. If you really want the Weatherby buy it.

That being said there's no good logical reason to do it. You're trying to trade a more expensive gun for a cheaper one - you'll loose money on the deal.
Both guns shoot the same bullets, the Weatherby just shoots them 200fps faster (maybe only 125-150fps if you use RL-17 in the WSM). This means what? That ta bullet from the Weatherby hits with the same energy at 150 yds that the WSM hits it at 100? Maybe a 1/4" difference in drop? There's not much a difference in results but the Weatherby burns a lot more powder in a much heavier rifle to do it.
I have a couple 300 Weatherby's, they are nice guns and one of mine especially shoots very well. But it's just not a whole lot more gun than a 300 WSM in the field.

But like I said do what makes you happy. Logic and practicality shouldn't interfere with a true Gun nuts decisions! .......................DJ