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I got to put some fingerprints on this project in Reno and it is going to be a sweet little rifle. The only fault I had was the original bolt handle's size and Shane assured me that will be replaced. I believe you have a winner here Terry and I am looking forward to it when completed.
Larry *********** "Speed is fine but accuracy is final" - Bill Jordan "We do not exaggerate when we state positively that the remodelled Springfield is the best and most suitable "all 'round" rifle".......Seymour Griffin, GRIFFIN & HOWE, Inc.
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Thanks Larry, James Anderson is ready to start the stock just as soon as he gets the barraled action back Shane. He'll be doing the bolt handle and safety too.
Goodnews, I never tire of seeing that rifle! James told me the story of how came to be. Lot's my projects grow once they get to The gunsmiths too.
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Yes, a rifle project is a lot like government. It only grows.
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Quick question for you mini-mauser guys. A bit off-topic but not completely. Someone brought up the idea of buying one of the 799's a couple weeks ago when BP had them marked way down and switching barrels to make a 250-3000 Savage. Do ya'll know if the mag box is long enough for a 250 Savage? I haven't had a chance to measure my dad's mini to check. If it is that seems like it would be a great little compact whitetail rifle.
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I'm out of state and a long ways from my rifle. But the .223 cartridge doesn't fit in the mag with all that much room to spare, so, not knowing the OAL of the .250 I hesitate to say but I'm leaning toward "no."
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I've read a thread on a gunsmithing forum about that very subject. The answer was no. But, if you're into wildcats there are a few choices.
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Wildcat wouldn't be a problem. I handload everything anyway and this wouldn't be a rifle to go across the pond. Mostly just a compact lightweight whitetail rifle. Of course a .223 with 60gr. Partitions or 53gr. TSX's would do the job just as well. All shots would be inside 150 yards.
Thanks for the information guys. I didn't think it'd be long enough, from memory, but wasn't sure.
Now back to Terry's rifle. More pics please. This thing kills me. It's a beautiful little rifle.
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Terry,
If Remington offers the rifle in 22-250, would not the parent round, 250-3000 fit as well? Is the 22-250 significantly shorter?
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Terry,
If Remington offers the rifle in 22-250, would not the parent round, 250-3000 fit as well? Is the 22-250 significantly shorter? I just looked at some cartridge drawings this morning and I'm in total agreement. They look indentical. I wish I had a link to the thread I mentioned. I would like to go back reference it again also. Terry
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The problem isn't the case. The problem is the bullet Zastava says the 22-250 mag box is 2 19/64 (2.297) long. http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/civilni.htmCartridges of the World says the 250 Savage cartridge is 2.515 long and the case is 1.912. That leaves about 0.385 for a bullet. Check the overall length of the 250 Savage with the bullet you want to use to see if it will fit in the magazine. Maybe someone with a rifle or action can see how hard it would be to lengthen the magazine. Bruce
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While I'd like to have one of these in 250, realistically a 22-250 with a 1-8" barrel and shooting 70 or 75gr. pills would be just as effective inside 200 yards, IMHO. The velocity gain of the 22-250 would offset the, probably, 100gr. bullet weight. Some would disagree, but I'd use that combo in a heartbeat. In fact I plan to this fall.
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I felt the same way when I picked the .223 Too many good bullets out there these day's. With a 1-in-8" twist barrel a shooter has a lot of versatility.
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That's what I did on my 22-250. Looks like I'll be picking it up, hopefully, next Saturday. Ordered a box of 70gr. TSX's and 2 boxes of 75gr. A-max's this morning. Course the A-max's aren't for deer. Roger is shooting it in with 75gr. Amax's so that's what it is built around. #3 Krieger 1-8 twist at 24" should do all I'll need. I bought a mini mauser early fall in .223, I think for $300. My dad loved it and paid me for it before I could get out his front door. So now I want one to keep. Thinking a .223.
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Yea, I had to go with a second one too. Just too much fun In my case I already had a nice aftermarket stock I needed to use so the choice was easy. I found a guy that had one that happened to want a .44 Mag blackhawk I never used so we traded. I've never been one to leave well enough alone so off to James Andersons it went. This one is a 7.62X39 It's a work in progress. Terry
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Nice. this summer I hope to make a 22LR safari rifle on a CZ action- time permitting. I stole a nice french blank its too narrow/small for anything but an Obendorf squirrel stalking rifle- 2 leaf rear hooded front etc.
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Nice. this summer I hope to make a 22LR safari rifle on a CZ action- time permitting. I stole a nice french blank its too narrow/small for anything but an Obendorf squirrel stalking rifle- 2 leaf rear hooded front etc. Sounds neato. Those CZ's have a lot going for them right out the box. Nothing more scary than a squirrel charge! A good stopping rifle will come in handy! I love projects like that. When you do it please share. Terry
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........................updates ?.................... wth....some of us dont have lives and we be wait'n
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I haven't talked to James in a couple of weeks. I need to call and see if anything has happened.
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I just got some pictures from James Anderson. These are of some changes to the magazine box and trigger fitment. These are a real treat. The bolt handle and 3-position are the the last things to be done and the metal is finished I believe. We're going over the final stock dimensions tomorrow and then the pattern goes into production. James has been very kind to share the progress of this rifle with us. If you ever have a desire for that once in a lifetime gun please keep him in mind. Below are a series of pictures were the magazine is depth is reduced to scale the rifle down. Since changing one thing always' effects another, a new trigger shoe is cut for the Timney trigger. This is a nice upgrade because it give a custom fit inside the the bow. James Anderson: "Heres a few pics to pass the time. After milling the 1/8" off the height of the grip came down to what my Mex Mauser pattern is. The stock MiniX is a little too thick. My unmilled miniX holds 7 down. It looks like it too. I'll be able to trim your stock to a much more pleasing line with this modification." "Setting the mag box to mill off 1/8" " "Finished mlling" "Here's some more pics. The Timney trigger was way too long for the little miniX bow especially with the shorter mag box. zeroing the stock" "Cad verifying the program" "rough milling" [img] http://photos.imageevent.com/lucky/shanethompsonminimauserpartii/websize/DSC00362.jpg[/img] Finished part [img] http://photos.imageevent.com/lucky/shanethompsonminimauserpartii/websize/DSC00361.jpg[/img] Basicly the before and after photo'sNotice how much better the trigger fits now and whille the depth doesn't look to be much, when you cover it with wood it'll be significant. [img] http://photos.imageevent.com/lucky/shanethompsonminimauserpartii/websize/DSC00366.jpg[/img] [img] http://photos.imageevent.com/lucky/shanethompsonminimauserpartii/websize/DSC00363.jpg[/img] Thanks again James, Terry
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Final stock design agreed on and CAD drawing rendered. The wood chips are about to start flying Terry
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