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A speed shooting comparison between the G19 and the PM9 is kinda like arguing which car company makes the fastest station wagon. I'd bet on the G19, but only due to the size and weight.
This thread started out comparing the TP9, which IMO is a much better handling pistol than the G19. Speedwise, we're now talking 4-door sedans.
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A speed shooting comparison between the G19 and the PM9 is kinda like arguing which car company makes the fastest station wagon. I'd bet on the G19, but only due to the size and weight.
This thread started out comparing the TP9, which IMO is a much better handling pistol than the G19. Speedwise, we're now talking 4-door sedans. Geez, now I gotta get a G34 and learn how to drive a 4-door sedan. Gonna have to disagree with ya on the TP9 but that's just my opinion. Still think they are quality guns but they don't fit me well.
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I like both but carry my Kahr P9 more than my Glock.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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nyagwai, to me the standard trigger on the Glock is not as good as the trigger on the Kahr. I don't do speed shooting contests, but the competition Glocks I have fired don't have a standard trigger. One recent example was lighter than a good 1911 trigger. I can shoot the PM9 as accurately or more accuractely than a G19, the trigger slap after the trigger breaks discourages accuracy in an otherwise theoretically accurate pistol. I think Glocks are good pistols, and Kahrs are good pistols, but there is nothing magic or special about either one of them. I may go with both, but I am going to buy a wolf tuning spring kit for the G19. I don't suffer from any blind loyalty to anything. If you stuff a 15 round glock in a holster and feel that they you are well armed you should read more JC who once said "you cannot miss fast enough to win". 15 rounds should mean 15 targets, not 15 attempts to hit the same one, a common problem with todays police force, and popular TV shows.....
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jimmyp. I agree with ya. They are both quality pistols and personal preferences are what drives us. You know what you like and what works for ya. Same as I do. I'm gonna disagree a bit with your 15 shots = 15 targets theory. Having 16 in the gun just means I have more ammo before I have to reload no matter how many "targets" there are. With all due respect to Mr. Cooper and I have a bunch, I'll shoot til they're down and out. I'll leave the one shot stop nonsense to those that are interested testing their wonder bullets or mythical manstopper calibers.
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Having 16 in the gun just means I have more ammo before I have to reload no matter how many "targets" there are. In my case, the 16-rounds means a chunky frame with no balance that weighs more than necessary. I'm still surprised Glock hasn't introduced a single-stack G19 and G23.
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I must have huge hands or something. The frame is about as wide as my thumb. I'm surprised they haven't either as there seems to be a demand for them. It'd be nice to have a lightweight Glock for a change.
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