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I predicted that the 7mm WSM would not last long. Looks like it is pretty much dead. Winchester is not going to chamber it. Kimber has removed it from their 8400 line of rifles. I don't know of anyone who chambers it besides Browning.

Too bad, it looks like a great cartridge on paper. The problem is, I don't think any 7mm will last bearing the Winchester name.

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As far as I"m concerned, they can get rid of the other WSMs and WSSMs too while they're at it..

But that's just me...


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Why don't you like them?


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Im with ya Redneck, but I will have to admit if I was going to a short mag it would be one of the Rem SAUM and not the Win. line of them.

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That's too bad.
I shoot a 7mm WSM for deer sized game. In my opinion my rifle gets 5 stars in all categories.....it is light, compact, accurate, short bolt throw, flat as hell, hard hitting with 160's and friendly when it comes to recoil. It isn't easy to find a cartidge/rifle combo that has all of those qualities.

I may have to think about stocking up on ammo in case ammo availability becomes an issue.


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I wouldn't mind shooting a 7WSM.

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Thank goodness we still have the 7SAUM....oh, wait..... laugh


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Never thought it gave enough advantage over the 7mm-08 to get excited over the WSM version. 140s and 150s at around 2800-2900fps will get most things done that a 7mm needs to do without any contortions.


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I hate to play the part of the capitalist ( especially when I'm not getting paid for it wink )but the 7WSM seems to have fallen victim to its sales figures. Sales drive everything, and that one was just plain not selling....For that matter my prediction is the .300WSM is here to stay, the .270WSM...maybe...and the WSSMs- all of them, are circling the drain.... JMO
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Originally Posted by Cacciatore
That's too bad.
I shoot a 7mm WSM for deer sized game. In my opinion my rifle gets 5 stars in all categories.....it is light, compact, accurate, short bolt throw, flat as hell, hard hitting with 160's and friendly when it comes to recoil. It isn't easy to find a cartidge/rifle combo that has all of those qualities.

I may have to think about stocking up on ammo in case ammo availability becomes an issue.



Thats all I've ever wanted! Got the 300wsm now. Way more than I need for deer. The 7 prolly is too. But want the hell. I'd like a 7 wsm.


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I think the 270 WSM will stay because it shares no rivals in that caliber. There are no short action 277 caliber cartridges. Besides the 270 Weatherby Magnum and plain old 270 Winchester, there is nothing else to compete with.

7mm cartridges are as common as bad breath.

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I have a 270 WSM and a 300 WSM.They both shoot great with very little recoil.the 270 give me 3310FPS with an 130 gr.ballistc tip out of my Tikka and the 300 gives me 3050 with a 180 Gr.ballistic tip out of my MRC.Both shoot way under an inch.I am going to build a 7WSM just for grins!!!!!!


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When the WSM's were introduced Winchester made an error and the headspace on a 7mm WSM was the same as a 270 WSM.

History shows that a 7mm/06 might be fired in a 270 Win. so Remington made the 280 Remington with a longer headspace than the 270 Win. so that it could not be chambered in 270 Win's.

Winchester recalled whatever original 7mm WSM's were produced and redesigned the 7mm WSM with a longer headspace. This late start for the 7mm WSM left it way behind the WSM's in sales. Thus the current situation.

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I like my 7mmWSM Classic. It is extremely accurate, and duplicates the 7mmRM in a short action. I also like the 7mmRM, but now I have a cartridge with the same ballistics, but without that belt. Oh, wait a minute, aren't belted cartridges now "classics"? Darn it, I may be behind the curve again! grin I've stockpiled a LOT of brass, no worries, mate. grin

FWIW, the 7mmWSM is quite popular among long range shooters.


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Sales figures mean squat to me. If sales were so important, I'd have to get rid of a LOT of rifles, among them, .257 Roberts, .257AI, 264WM, 7mmSTW, 300 Weatherby, as well as the 7mmWSM. The biggest seller around here as far as a hunting cartridge is probably the 243 Win. Ammo is cheap and plentiful, but still not my cup of tea. I don't even have a 243 Win in the house, except for a SS Classic I've been meaning to convert to a 257 Roberts! grin Different strokes for different folks.


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Can't argue about whether the 7 Wizzum does anything a 7 RM won't do, but I like mine. Course I also like my 7 Shamu as well. Both of 'em are great little cartridges, and yeah, I've also got a 7MM-08, 280, 7 RM to go with 'em so I guess I'm not scared of a little overlap.


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It's a ugly looking cartridge.


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Originally Posted by mtnman1
Can't argue about whether the 7 Wizzum does anything a 7 RM won't do, but I like mine. Course I also like my 7 Shamu as well. Both of 'em are great little cartridges, and yeah, I've also got a 7MM-08, 280, 7 RM to go with 'em so I guess I'm not scared of a little overlap.


Sounds like our gun safes have a lot in common - the overlap has overlap. <grin>


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Theres a coupla threads on the Fire you guys might be interested in... one is on the 7mm"cult" and the other is on picking a cartridge based on its looks!!! grin
So you last two guys, and the collective "we" are not alone in our thinking!
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