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Hey Steelhead,
Nice bear! I would have no problem with a bear like that!
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Monsieurs Andre and Marsielle; Thanks so much for sharing your photos with us.
I like the tusk presentation that you both have as well as the hunt photo from Monsieur Marseille.
Thanks to Mr. muledeer for adding his boar photo as well.
It is always interesting to see how folks hunt in other parts of the world, especially for animals we don�t see locally.
Thanks again all.
Regards, Dwayne
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one of the ones i got this year last years boar and one i had mounted
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Makes my 280 pound bear look small. It's all the fur on the bear. Dennis
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Here's another nice one, shot in '97 with a .300 Win Mag on invitation at the Royal Hunting Preserve of St.-Michel-Fre�r.
Andre -------------------------------------- 3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact. 5 shots are a group.
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Andre, superb mounts!! Do you guys get to keep any of the pork?? If so, how good is it??
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A Sanglier isn't a pork, ET ... Very nice trophies Andre, and great honour to have taken the second one on the Crown's preserve. Was it during a driven hunt ?
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GV, great to see ya back with us!!! OK! Whutinhell is the difference between Sanglier and a pig?? I thought they were porkers!!!
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I've been out of the forum for a long time ... Quite boring hunting season (and nothing to write about it) 'til the very last days of it, heavy working monthes at the office, and I eventually moved to a new house where I had no Internet connection up to the last week.
Nice to read you again.
Well, there are members of the same family but they are quite different. Would you tell a cape buffalo is a cow ? That's my feeling about wild boars (you name them Russian boars IIRC) and pigs. The first ones are wild games, the second ones are just ... farm or industrial meat ... That's a personal "freeware" opinion, of course.
mmmh ... 17.42 PM ... Time to take the '70, drive 15 minutes and try to see and kill one of those ... "pigs" ..
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During a drive hunt, yes, Grand Veneur. I've been quite often in St-Michel and am invited once every 3-4 years in Ciergnon(that's quite something !), the private hunting grounds of the Royal Family. I'm still on the Royal Palace's civil list (at least I do hope so...). This dates back to the days I was the managing director of the Belgian hunters association.
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Well, there are members of the same family but they are quite different. Would you tell a cape buffalo is a cow ? That's my feeling about wild boars (you name them Russian boars IIRC) and pigs. The first ones are wild games, the second ones are just ... farm or industrial meat ... That's a personal "freeware" opinion, of course. I quite agree with you, though I tend to call meat from wild pigs "pork". What is the meat called in your country? Other nations in Europe? Maybe we need to adopt a new name for the meat from wild pigs, though given the tendency of Americans to be casual rather than precise, it might be a lost cause. This, by the way, I absolutely love: "This is my opinion! There are many like it, but this one is mine! My opinion is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it, like I master my life. Without me, my opinion is useless. Without my opinion, I am useless. I must fire my opinion true!" Nicely done! Dennis
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I do like those mounts .... self to 'opinion' quit shooting those Sows (or young Boars) for quality meat and get a Boar for a mount 'opinion' to self ... "sounds like a plan"
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During a drive hunt, yes, Grand Veneur. I've been quite often in St-Michel and am invited once every 3-4 years in Ciergnon(that's quite something !), the private hunting grounds of the Royal Family. I'm still on the Royal Palace's civil list (at least I do hope so...). This dates back to the days I was the managing director of the Belgian hunters association. Then I think I know who you are. I've visited St Michel & Freyr last september, day and night, with the main warden and 2 friends that were among the "new hunting licenses" guests the previous seasons. Quite an impressing territory with quite impressive stags. Stalking there could be the experience of a hunter's lifetime.
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To Muledeer,
There are genetical differences between domestic pork and european wild boar (sus scrofa scrofa). The pork have 38 chromosomes and the wild boar only 36. They can hybrid together and then the first generation has 37 chromosomes. After they can get 36,37 or 38 chromosome. But there also the big bulgarian, turkish and iranian wild boar (sus scrofa attila) that have 38 chromosomes and can grow bigger than western european boar. That's for genetics. In Europe we try not to call a wild boar a pig simply by respect for such a fearless and tough wild game, intelligent and adaptable. Even if we shoot and kill boar we respect it as a tough adversary, stalking a real big wild boar is a very interesting hunt and you come back most of time empty hands. The pork is an animal only bred for meat that is slaughtered and butchered not hunt.I know that feral pigs can get really bad but it's not really the same thing. As Grand Veneur wrote it's the same as a Cape Buffalo and a Longhorn or Angus Bull. Sorry if i can't explain you really what i mean because of my poor english, hope that you get the feeling.
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Friends, reading through this thread, I think, we must not let ourselves get carried away to much. Sus scrofa is the wild form of our domestic pig. Chromosome differences none withstanding, let domestic pigs run will a few generations and the phenotype reforms back to what we know as Sus Scrofa. Size differences between regions depend much more on food availability, innerspecific competition and the time giveb to each pig to grow large (hunting ;)). Calling to much attention to the nomenclature, either scientific (Sus scrofa scrofa attila...) or "hunter talk" (not "pigs", it is "Russian Imperial Boar") easily gets carried away. Example: German language: Wildschwein --> Wild Pig Hunter talk: Schwarzwild --> Black Game This discribes wild boar in german and german hunter talk. When we adress the species as such, german hunters will say "Schwarzwild" meaning "Black Game". Whem adressing one single animal, it either gets identified by ageclass name or refered to as "Schwein" a "Pig". Nothing wrong with that, IMHO. It is true. Language shows respect. It can also show closeness, familiarity and such. Showing respect to game animals is much more in the hunting of them, than in the talk. Just my .02 Euro.
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Fantastic tusk mounts, Andre. Thanks for sharing.
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It is true. Language shows respect. It can also show closeness, familiarity and such. Showing respect to game animals is much more in the hunting of them, than in the talk. Just my .02 Euro. Absolutely true ... I was not in a philosophical deep disagreement . We could also discuss the terms we use in local languages ... Could be fun. But there is somtehing I would'nt admit ... When I go to the restaurant and order some dish based upon wild boar meat ... I can't admit to receive ... pig meat So when I cook pheasant meat, I name it pheasant When I cook hare meat, I name it hare When I cook roe deer, I name it roe deer The same with wild boar. Anyway, I have no problems with other habits ... and Andre's trophies seem absolutely great to me.
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Andre, congratulations on a fine hunt and superb trophy!
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