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130 gr ballistic tip. Just because Lee J. Hoots said it was a bad choice.
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130 NPt. Nothing will ever know it wasn't a 150.
I'm willing to consider the 130 TSX, just haven't done enough yet.
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OK everyone I have a question as a long time .270 shooter and handloader.
Many here have named many proven bullets that I'm fond of. The 130 Hornady SP (my fav 130 gr), the 150 gr partition (my fav 150 gr.). More than one 140 AB vote as well as 130 gr partitions, 140 Hornady BTSP etc. etc..
Out of all the bullets listed, I'm curious why the 140 Nosler Partition has not been listed a single time. No, I have not tried it, I'm just slightly suprised it never comes up, in any 270 threads it seems.
In theory it seems it would be a great bullet, more weight (slightly), higher sd and bc than 130 np, faster and slightly flatter than the 150. Seems it would bee the best of both worlds in regards to the Partition.
Has it been found to be an inherintly bad bullet? I'm serious, no sarcasm, just curious.
If there is an old thread pertaining to this bullet that would answer my questions just lead me to it, no need for anyone to explain all the way through again.
Just rambling, and curious....
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that'd be the one in the chamber!!! no really, at the moment 140 nosler accubond. if'n i was rich it'd be 140-150 tsx leanin' to the 150 for every thing. come to think of it i don't know why i ever bought a 270 anyway; i already have an -06, got rid of a REALLY good shootin' .260, now i think i NEED a 6.5x55 sweed. guess need has nothin' to do with it any ways. maybee you should just get rid of the thing and find something else that won't shoot what ever you feed it, be less headache. good luck!
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Another raised hand for the 150 gr Nosler Partition.
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I just don't feel the need to jump up to 150 grains for any of the hunting I have done with my 270 (mule deer, elk, and bear). It just doesn't seem worth the cost in velocity and trajectery. I use 130 grain western silvertips exclusivly. Mainly because they print so much better than anything else I've tried. It has put all my animals down very cleanly in a myriad of circumstances.
Anyone want to explain why the 150 grainers have lured so many of you all away from the benefit of shooting a cartridge intended for high velocity performance.
To be a hypocrite I must add that when I finally dray my moose tag I will be handloading some 160 partition loads. I will try the exact loads that O'connor loaded for the big guys.
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Never seen anything run from a 130 grain bullet. Like, Partition Hot Core Sierra pro Hunter NBT on Deer
For one bullet, I would go 130 grain. You might as well make it a Partition.
too true. Was it not the 130 that "made" the .270Win? I am down to shooting those almost worthless Nosler pro shop flat base bullets in mine, so far these old things shoot into 1/2 or so and seem to work on coyote's and deer.
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OK everyone I have a question as a long time .270 shooter and handloader....
Out of all the bullets listed, I'm curious why the 140 Nosler Partition has not been listed a single time. No, I have not tried it, I'm just slightly suprised it never comes up, in any 270 threads it seems.
In theory it seems it would be a great bullet, more weight (slightly), higher sd and bc than 130 np, faster and slightly flatter than the 150. Seems it would bee the best of both worlds in regards to the Partition....
Has it been found to be an inherintly bad bullet? I'm serious, no sarcasm, just curious.
Thanks,
Bill Bill I can only speak for myself of course. The partition is a good bullet. It does just exactly what it was designed to do. However in my 270 rifles I can not get it to shoot as well as other bullets do no matter what. None of the partitions can I get to shoot as accurately as I want a bullet to perform. BCR
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I think i would ask to mister Hoots new editor in chief for Successful Hunter, he knows for sure what the best bullet is...
Sorry guys, was joking!!!
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OK everyone I have a question as a long time .270 shooter and handloader....
Out of all the bullets listed, I'm curious why the 140 Nosler Partition has not been listed a single time. No, I have not tried it, I'm just slightly suprised it never comes up, in any 270 threads it seems.
In theory it seems it would be a great bullet, more weight (slightly), higher sd and bc than 130 np, faster and slightly flatter than the 150. Seems it would bee the best of both worlds in regards to the Partition....
Has it been found to be an inherintly bad bullet? I'm serious, no sarcasm, just curious.
Thanks,
Bill Bill I can only speak for myself of course. The partition is a good bullet. It does just exactly what it was designed to do. However in my 270 rifles I can not get it to shoot as well as other bullets do no matter what. None of the partitions can I get to shoot as accurately as I want a bullet to perform. BCR BCR I agree the partition is a good bullet, I have used it in 130 gr in one of my 270's and I currently run 100gr partitions in my 260. Have used it in a couple other calibers as well. I was mainly referring to the 140 gr partition and why its rarely mentioned. Did notice on vote for it since my first post. Bill
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Hello Boggy, Say have you tried that Nosler Accubond bullet in your .270 Whinny yet? Just curious is all.
School is still out on those Barnes tsx bullets I been testing (it ain't cheap to test em either) Going to do the water tank test next, to see how they open up down range. I hope they do open as well as the Nosler's but I have my doubt's from past experiences mind you.
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I'm thinking a 140, Either accubond, Hornady BTSP, or Nosler BT.
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If you had to choose one 270 bullet to do "everything" with what would you choose? I'm talking mice to moose, targets to varmints, short range to "WAY" out there. All of this from a 270 win. Cost and availability considered. 150gr Partition. From up close and personal, to a long ways out. Higher Sd than the 130 grainers, plus it seems the 150 Pt is built a bit tougher than the 130. Higher Sd seems to perform a bit more consistently across a wider range of velocities, plus it opens up fine from pronghorns to elk and beyond. Back before Shooters Pro Shop and the seconds were thoroughly discovered, and before the Obama scare swept the shooting world, Pro Shop generally had lots of bullets in stock. When I could buy a premium bullet like the Pt for $10-$15 a box, it was a hands-down winner....... But it wouldn't bother me a bit to use a 140 TSX or even a 130 TSX in my 270's............ Casey
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140's and 150's? Nothing wrong with any of them.....I started out using 130's..things died.Then,later bullets got better,and if I shoot a 130 that keeps 90-95% of its' weight,expands and makes it to the off side hide,I figured how is that not as good, or better,than a 140 or 150 that loses 1/3 to over 1/2 of its' weight (integrity)?
By just switching to a tougher 130,I get the same effect(perceived benefit)of a heavier bullet,and I'm spared the mental anguish of wondering which is better.
Sometimes, it isn't what you start out with,but what you end up with........
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140's and 150's? Nothing wrong with any of them.....I started out using 130's..things died.Then,later bullets got better,and if I shoot a 130 that keeps 90-95% of its' weight,expands and makes it to the off side hide,I figured how is that not as good, or better,than a 140 or 150 that loses 1/3 to over 1/2 of its' weight (integrity)?
By just switching to a tougher 130,I get the same effect(perceived benefit)of a heavier bullet,and I'm spared the mental anguish of wondering which is better.
Sometimes, it isn't what you start out with,but what you end up with........ You see Bob your post is perfect example of your using good common sense and logic. Many here on the Campfire do not like that. You are running the risk of not being liked by those folks..
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Sometimes, it isn't what you start out with,but what you end up with........ Well, a long time ago I started out with 150 gr Core-Lokts, but ended up with 150 gr Pt's....... The lower wieght TSX's certainly penetrate as well as any weight Pt, but I still give the nod to Pt's for consistentancy across a wide range of velocities. Besides, elevation rarely is my challenge--but it's wind drift that can make things really tricky........ Casey
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