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Little bit of scope cut. That is funny, can you make larger?
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Thanks for trying, I found the pic.
Had no idea Bert was such a bad dude.
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I want to be Secretary of the Interior. I was thinking Paul would appoint you Ambassador to Sweden.
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That's all well and good guys... except...
If the scope on my M7 was mounted any further forward, I'd lose my full sight picture (unless I crawled the stock forward from my natural position). Period. This is a fixed-eye-relief scope; it's not hard to see this. How this concept escapes you guys is beyond me, other than the before-mentioned "experts syndrome".
The 2.5x8 Loopy on my .325 WSM Montana is as far back as the Talley's will let it go. If I could, I'd probably bring it even further back, another 1/8" or so. If ever there's a rifle that bucks, that'd be it... never touches me. Ever. I practice with it all the time from field positions, prone, whatever. I shot my cow elk at a very steep up-angle with it this last fall, about as steep as you will get short of perhaps sheep hunting. No problem.
My sporter .338 sports a 3.5x10 Conquest, also nominally fixed eye relief. It's also mounted as close to me as possible. If I could, I'd move that one back a little more, too. Again, I shoot it all the time from field positions. No problems, never been touched by that scope.
So what ever shall I do? Shall I mount my scopes according to how people say on the internet, even though it's worse for me and my body? Or shall I mount them such that they work best for me? Gosh, I'm in a tizzy... wringing hands... so confused...
Seriously guys... think about it. Mounted where it is, I close my eyes, throw up the rifle, open my eyes, and everything is perfect, right where I want it, full sight picture, no moving my head around, nuthin'. Perfect. And, the scope NEVER HITS ME.
In what possible way, could a scope be mounted better FOR ME than what I just described? They are my fuggin' rifles.
So what, exactly, is the problem? And why, exactly, should I change?
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I want to be Secretary of the Interior. I'm sure Paul would be glad to create the post of Gynecology Czar. IF he became GC would it be appropriate for Steelie to look up old girlfriends?
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What a pun
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If any of you become political bigwigs, give considerable thought to who you designate to be in charge of the hubble telescope.
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That's all well and good guys... except...
If the scope on my M7 was mounted any further forward, I'd lose my full sight picture (unless I crawled the stock forward from my natural position). Period. This is a fixed-eye-relief scope; it's not hard to see this. How this concept escapes you guys is beyond me, other than the before-mentioned "experts syndrome".
The 2.5x8 Loopy on my .325 WSM Montana is as far back as the Talley's will let it go. If I could, I'd probably bring it even further back, another 1/8" or so. If ever there's a rifle that bucks, that'd be it... never touches me. Ever. I practice with it all the time from field positions, prone, whatever. I shot my cow elk at a very steep up-angle with it this last fall, about as steep as you will get short of perhaps sheep hunting. No problem.
My sporter .338 sports a 3.5x10 Conquest, also nominally fixed eye relief. It's also mounted as close to me as possible. If I could, I'd move that one back a little more, too. Again, I shoot it all the time from field positions. No problems, never been touched by that scope.
So what ever shall I do? Shall I mount my scopes according to how people say on the internet, even though it's worse for me and my body? Or shall I mount them such that they work best for me? Gosh, I'm in a tizzy... wringing hands... so confused...
Seriously guys... think about it. Mounted where it is, I close my eyes, throw up the rifle, open my eyes, and everything is perfect, right where I want it, full sight picture, no moving my head around, nuthin'. Perfect. And, the scope NEVER HITS ME.
In what possible way, could a scope be mounted better FOR ME than what I just described? They are my fuggin' rifles.
So what, exactly, is the problem? And why, exactly, should I change?
You'd have to look like this for your rig to fit..just sayin g Laffin! We finally have a good pic of Jeff O!
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Looks like he opened the Ark...
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Somtimes the level of stupidity amazes me. The Black Ring and How to Make it Your Friend by JO laffin
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I go hunting for a weekend, and look at all the fun I miss.
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You probably had a terrible time too... Gag on a shrimp? Heard you may have a story to tell... But it cannot top the Legend of the Black Ring!
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I can't believe that this has gone on for 110 pages! With all due respect Jeff, as like another member said I have no dog in this fight, this reminds me of the little kid in school that constantly got picked on because he wanted to fit in sooooo bad!!!
This thread needs flushed!!!
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Just another crappy weather weekend in the sound, life sucks and all that.
Only caught two halibut, and never saw a bear over 6'.
We did C&R a skate and an octopus though.... that's gotta sting.
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Ouch!!! You probably kept a freaking halibut in place of them, too! Rookie!!!!!!!!!! art
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I haven't looked at this thread for awhile but it is absolutely turned hilarious...Never seen a scope set up like that...
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Ya, do ya think after all the ribbing that he got that he shouldered said rifle and moved his head back just to see if The Black Ring disappeared? Cuz as soon as he typed that stuff I grabbed the 7 Whizzum and dialed it to 2.5X,shoulderd it and had my wife crank it to 8X while I looked through the scope. No Black Ring! Maybe having the eyepiece only 1/2" behind the trigger guard has something to do with it? Same with the 280 and 35 whelen both with 3-9x andthe 35 whelen with a 2-7.
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What you guys are saying is utterly ridiculous. I have a rifle with a 2.5x8 mounted as I prefer (as close as the Talley's will let it be to me) right next to me. The following are direct observations- which I've made before, which is why I mount my scopes as I do. In the first place, it is not possible to mount a 2.5x8 Leupold to get a full sight picture at full magnification on, say, a LA M700 or Kimber Montana. Unless your head is way, WAY forward forward on the stock, to an extent I'd have to see to believe. My neck isn't that different that anyone else's. So I simply do not believe that you guys are getting "no black" at full power with a 2.5x8 Leupold, mounted further FORWARD, away from you, than mine are mounted. I call BS. Second, if my head IS scooted that far forward so as to get a full view at full magnification, and I keep my head in the same place and crank it back down to 2.5x guess what happens? I LOSE the full field of view at the lowest setting- which takes some doing, on a 2.5x8!! The eyebox is now all shot to [bleep]! Now there IS black around the image at low power- something I hardly even would have thought possible with a 2.5x8, but apparantly you guys have found a way. In addition to that, with my head that far forward on the stock, it's not hard to imagine getting hit by that scope. Duh. So apparantly you guys are compromising your low-magnification eyebox(which matters a LOT) of your Leupolds in order to get a full field of view at full power (where it doesn't matter anyway). AND, making it more likely you'll get hit by your scope, due to having your neck craned so far forward. So let's recap. -I get a huge, generous eyebox and full field of view at lower power settings- where they matter most. NO BLACK around the image at low power; I don't think I could get it if I tried! If I need to make a quick shot, I get a HUGE field of view, the eyebox is maximized to help with whatever crazy body position I might be in (low magnification usually means a quick shot), etc. -I don't get hit by my scopes, ever. Even shooting something like a .325 WSM Montana from field positions. Contrast that with you guys living in fear of that. -I don't move my head around on the stock. I choose my spot and stick to it. I don't "chase" the image as it gets smaller as the magnification is turned to max on a Leupold. So there's some black around the image. So? I'm at full power, I'm shooting long, I have time, and I'm in a solid shooting position- OR ELSE I WOULDN'T BE AT MAX MAGNIFICATION! YOU guys, apparantly: -have your heads WAY forward on the stock, if you are getting a full field of view, no black, at full power on a Leupold 2.5x8; -live in fear of getting hit by your scopes (hmmm... see a pattern here?); -compromise the low-magnification eyebox of your scope enormously by having your eye so close to the scope, OR, compromise the consistancy of your shooting form by moving your head a couple inches back on the stock at lower magnifications. Ask any competitive shotgun shooter how important a consistant cheek weld is. The low-magnification eyebox of a Leupold is spectacular, and is one of the main reasons to even own one. And you are throwing it away. Smart. As to that Zeiss mounted on my M7, does it look goofy? Sure does. Long scope on a short rifle. Is it mounted in absolutely the PERFECT place on that rifle? Yep, it is. Any further forward moves it out of the sweet spot. As you'd KNOW if any of you had actually ever used one, which you have not. Below is a pic of a 2.5x8 mounted on my Montana. Please note, it's about 1/4", maybe 3/8" at the most, further back than say STA's, or 340boy's if I'm remember his rifle right. Are they then 1/4" away from being idiots who deserves to be publically flogged for being so stupid? You guys are full of it.
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