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None are turds, so you can't go too wrong.
If the kid has a passion for rifles at 12, I'd get the most quality I could afford.
If the kid is spoiled, and gets new $hit all the time and will forget about the rifle in a week, get the lowest cost option, or, get the one YOU want to have after the kid forgets about it.
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Oops, I see the choice was already made. LUCKY KID!
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There's nothing low budget about the Remington Model 7. It's a fantastic rifle. The Kimber would have been my last choice, but they are accurate enough for deer hunting.
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Looks like the deed was done.
Had I voted it would have been:
1. Rem 7
2. Win FWT
3. Kimber
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Good for him, he now has a gun that he can charish his whole life! You say you bought it at Sportsmans Wharehouse though, aren't they out of business?
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If dad's pockets are deep, guess it doesn't make too much difference. I can guarantee that my son will not have his very own $2500 rifle when he is 12(in ten years), even factoring in inflation. Most likely he will have something like a Model 7 or a lever gun. Those inevitable dings and scratches only cost a few dollars versus hundreds of dollars with the fancy Kimber. Besides, what do you have to look forward to as far as gun purchases if you have already won the gun lotto at age 12?
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None are turds, so you can't go too wrong.
If the kid has a passion for rifles at 12, I'd get the most quality I could afford.
If the kid is spoiled, and gets new $hit all the time and will forget about the rifle in a week, get the lowest cost option, or, get the one YOU want to have after the kid forgets about it. pretty good advice for my tastes right there my kid could have had any rifle (within reason) that he wanted he picked the T3 over the Kimber as it shouldered more comfortably for him and he thought the action was smoother. saved me about $400 bucks don't believe he's spoiled but he does have some nice toys, Sage fly rod, Rem 700 in .223, T3 in '06, win trapper pre safety in .44 mag, a McHale backpack, good boots, cell phone with unlimited text. but he's a good kid, I got robbed with the first one and couldn't buy her chit, she didn't finish high school and was a giant PIA discipline wise. he's respectful to me and his mom, a hard worker, not a complainer and just all around good kid, got lucky with this one. and I've been lucky financially, he's gonna share in some of that and leave home with some big boy toys that I had to buy myself as I was able.
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Good for him, he now has a gun that he can charish his whole life! You say you bought it at Sportsmans Wharehouse though, aren't they out of business? There are two here in I-O-U-fornia. The one in Visalia is closed after only 6 months of service. The only one still around is the one in Rocklin. A guy in Canada bought some of the few existing stores.
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Make the kid work and save his money for his gun. He may not be able to buy a Kimber or a new Winchester but he will be able to find a good used rifle for a descent price. He will appreciate it more and he will learn what its like to work toward a goal. Many guys that had to go through this still have the first gun they worked for and wont part with them. This is a right of passage that a young man need to go through!
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None are turds, so you can't go too wrong.
If the kid has a passion for rifles at 12, I'd get the most quality I could afford.
If the kid is spoiled, and gets new $hit all the time and will forget about the rifle in a week, get the lowest cost option, or, get the one YOU want to have after the kid forgets about it. pretty good advice for my tastes right there my kid could have had any rifle (within reason) that he wanted he picked the T3 over the Kimber as it shouldered more comfortably for him and he thought the action was smoother. saved me about $400 bucks don't believe he's spoiled but he does have some nice toys, Sage fly rod, Rem 700 in .223, T3 in '06, win trapper pre safety in .44 mag, a McHale backpack, good boots, cell phone with unlimited text. but he's a good kid, I got robbed with the first one and couldn't buy her chit, she didn't finish high school and was a giant PIA discipline wise. he's respectful to me and his mom, a hard worker, not a complainer and just all around good kid, got lucky with this one. and I've been lucky financially, he's gonna share in some of that and leave home with some big boy toys that I had to buy myself as I was able. Nothing wrong with giving kids good kit, once they appreciate it. My dad wasn't a rifle looney, or heavy on loot. His guns were a M94 30-30, and a single-shot 12 gauge. One day when I was about 13 years old, he came home with two new rifles and a huge grin on his face. Both were Win M670A, a 30-06 with a steel Weaver K4, and a 243 with a Tasco 4X. He handed me the 243 and said it was mine. I was elated, hadn't a clue it was a budget rifle. Learned to hunt muleys and reload (Lee Classic kit) with that rifle. Now that I'm older, I can appreciate the fact he bought himself a budget gun, so he could afford to get one for me too. He could have bought himself something a lot nicer and handed me the 30-30. The love of a Dad.....
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I have a great bud who can afford most reasonable toys. His two sons and daughter have been brought up right and love to shoot and hunt. They work their buts off at home and the camp they have and know as much about such things a planting food plots, cutting firewood and cooking as most adults. Good school grades are expected along with keeping their nose relatively clean. They do their part Mom and Dad do theirs. The rules are simple and enforced. Those kids have also had some things taken away when they pushed the rules.
Each kid is different as to what you do.
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Make the kid work and save his money for his gun. He may not be able to buy a Kimber or a new Winchester but he will be able to find a good used rifle for a descent price. He will appreciate it more and he will learn what its like to work toward a goal. Many guys that had to go through this still have the first gun they worked for and wont part with them. This is a right of passage that a young man need to go through! agree 100%
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Get him the Kimber!! After a long day crusin the bush up and down hills and beyond he'll thank ya for the Kimber. Great cartridge choice by the way.
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Clearly, you people do not love your children.
Proper choice would have been a Holland & Holland Royal DeLuxe magazine rifle London best gun, probably in, oh, I dunno, 6.5 x 55. No point in overdoing things...Schmidt & Bender optics are plenty good enough for a beginner. Again, don't overdo...CONETROL scope mounts, no real need for European claw. One round trip to and from London on NetJet G5 should be enough for fitting, and under no circumstances more than one night at the Connaught.
But, for goodness' sake, DO NOT SPOIL THE CHILD OR DO ANYTHING TO CREATE UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS OF REAL LIFE...i.e, absolutely NO full-coverage scroll engraving.
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Any one would make a great 1st rifle....but not knowing how big of a kid he is have you measured his length of pull? the 7 or CDL might fit him better.
and times sure have changed since I was 12. My 1st was a used 30-30 marlin. I thought it was the cat's azz at the time.
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My nephew came home with a happy face and will ahve the rifle in hand in the next 10 day wait period. (stupid I-O-U-fornia law) When we got home we told my sis-n-law we bought him a gun. She was proud that they both are going to spend more time together............until she asked how much it cost, HAHAHA!
"$2500!!!!!!!! YOU BETTER UPGRADE MY FREAKIN' DIAMOND.......YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!TWENTY FIVE F****** HUNDRED DOLLARS????!!!!!!YOU MISTER, BETTER PUT IN OVERTIME AND NO, NO YOU ARE NOT COMING TO BED TONIGHT, HIT THE COUCH IN THE BASEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" LMFAO....Vital, your brother is a brave one.....I would of had to make up a white lie on that one. No way I could have pulled it off for 2,500 clams.
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When giving a gift, if I know exactly what the person wants, I get them exactly what they want. Lots to be said for getting exactly what you want, especially when it's something that will last for a lifetime. That pretty stock and fine finish will get dinged and scratched over a kid's lifetime, and every ding and bump and bruise is a reminder of a hunt or a trip to the range, or something else that is good.
It only gets better with age, and a well used rifle is something to be proud of.
All that said, it depends on the kid, and whether he will take it for granted or appreciate it for what it cost in real terms (overtime and sacrifice). Sounds like he is the latter.
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I would look for a slightly used good rifle and put a youth stock on it.
my m7 is an 88 and alot nicer than the new ones.
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