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Normally, I abhor these kinds of posts.... As in: Why would anyone want to build a rifle on someone else's emotion... But I digress: Here's my story.. I have a Ruger #3 Action. It was a .45-70. I had taken it to a gunsmith to have it rebarreled to a .444 Marlin. Well, that was 18 mos ago and he's not done anything but disassembled it. In the meantime, I acquired another .444 Marlin. So in a conversaton with him the other day, we decided to scrap the project. I could put it back to .45-70, but I have three other .45-70's. He has a SS #1 bbl that would make it back to .45-70... But I don't have a need for that chambering. I've about had it with the heavy kickers anyway... I have Ruger take-off bbls in .270 Win, .243 Win, and .223 Rem.... Also have a take-off in .22 Hornet. That said, I'm not particularly fond of the .243... (I have two bolt guns, and a Browning Lo-Wal.) I have waaay more .270's than I need. I have 3 other rifles in .223, and I have another Ruger #1-A in .22 Hornet and a Browning LO-Wall in K-Hornet... Thus, those options are not attractive. I think sgl rifles and rimmed cartridges go together... But, a quick trip thru CoTW, Chapter on obsolete American cartridges, didn't turn up much. I have been wanting a sgl shot in 6.5 Jap just for S&Gs but that would be expensive and no expectation of return on my investment. After all, who, besides me, would want a rifle in 6.5 Jap? I have a new Pac-Nor turned blank in 6.5, (1~8 twist) but I was saving that for a Ruger 1-A in 6.5x54 MS... Also have a new Pac-Nor turned blank in 7mm that I was saving for a 1-A in 7x65R. The thought of a Sgl rifle in .35 Win. has merit, However, the .35 Win. is rather anemic, but I do have dies and a fairly large supply of reloaded ammo on the .30 Army case... Also, I have two other rifles in .35 Whelen, a .350 Rem Mag, and 3 or 4 in .358 Win. Not to mention a .35 Newton, and a .35 Apex. Thus I'm pretty well covered in .35's Thus I'm not coming up with any viable ideas... Anyone from this Think-Tank got any better ones? How about you #1 gurus? 1-B, ENU, etal???
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6.5 bbl? Not sure about extractor fit, but what about 6.5BRM?
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You don't mention what style stock you're planning to put on it, whether it will be a light carbine style, or a bigger piece that would lend itself to more robust power rifles. I do think a #1 style with the #3 lever looks pretty nice. Not sure what you'd label a "hard kicker", or the intended use - hunting or target shootng. I'll assume for the moment you don't want a .50 Alaskan, .470 Nitro, or .416 Rigby. Starting with large, and working downward, I can think of: .460 S&W .45 Colt .44 mag .41 magnum .405 Winchester .40-65 for silhouette .38-55/.375 winchester (if you go this way be sure to tell how hot it can be loaded ) 9.3 x 74R .348 Winchester ( might be pretty wicked in a strong action) .33 Winchester .32-40 .32-20 .303 Brit .30-40 Krag .300 Rook .219 Zipper .22 Savage Hi-Power There are several other rimmed English cartridges, various "Flanged Nitros" that would certainly make interesting conversation pieces. I expect with any of the above you'd be the first on your block with one
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I'd haveta do a 6.5-06 Improved or maybe a 6.5x348 Imp if ya GOT to have rimmed????
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6.5 bbl? Not sure about extractor fit, but what about 6.5BRM? Tod, I hadn't thought about the 6.5 BRM... But in a conversation with J.D. Jones, recently, he seemed stuck on his 6.5 JDJ If I go 6.5, it will be the 6.5 Jap. I have the dies, and brass and loaded ammo. Not to menton a dearth of 6.5 bullets.
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You don't mention what style stock you're planning to put on it, whether it will be a light carbine style, or a bigger piece that would lend itself to more robust power rifles. I do think a #1 style with the #3 lever looks pretty nice. Not sure what you'd label a "hard kicker", or the intended use - hunting or target shootng. I'll assume for the moment you don't want a .50 Alaskan, .470 Nitro, or .416 Rigby. Starting with large, and working downward, I can think of: .460 S&W .45 Colt .44 mag .41 magnum .405 Winchester .40-65 for silhouette .38-55/.375 winchester (if you go this way be sure to tell how hot it can be loaded ) 9.3 x 74R .348 Winchester ( might be pretty wicked in a strong action) .33 Winchester .32-40 .32-20 .303 Brit .30-40 Krag .300 Rook .219 Zipper .22 Savage Hi-Power LIkely I'll use factory #1 wood... 460 S&W has merit...ONe could still use the .45 Colt or the .454 Casull. Alto I'm not real big on pistol cartridges in rifles... I alrady own rifles in .40-70 SS, .40-65, and .405 Win. (Two of my .405's are a #1 and a Custom B-78, and a M-95 Win.) I have three rifles in 9.3x74R (A factory #1-S, and a Custom #1 w/tapered octagon bbl.. .348 Win, and .33 Win. were consedered and discarded. The .348 because I have a M-71 Dlx, and the .33 Win because of brass forming difficulties, and die availability. .32-40, .30-40 and .375 Win are out because I have other #3's so chambered... .219 Zip and .22 HP were considered, and discarded because I have a slew of varmint rifles that rarely get shot... The .32-20 is out because I plan to buy one of this years limited run Winchester Lo-Walls in .22 Hornet and have it bored to .32-20. AFAIC, the .25-20 and .32-20 just beg to be in a Low-Wall. BTW, Ruger #1's and #3's are not legal for BPCS because of the lack of external hammer. Of all the ones you mentioned, only the .303 Brit. is the best bet, but I'd rather it'd be in a #1-A... GH
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I'd haveta do a 6.5-06 Improved or maybe a 6.5x348 Imp if ya GOT to have rimmed???? I already have a rebored 1-B in 6.5x.270, AKA: 6.5x64 Brenneke...
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How about a 7x57R? (Hint...I'll send you some brass .) If you want an American cartridge, how about a .33 Win, from way back when? Then, for a good-modern, think about a 7mm STE, aka a .284/.358. Sounds nice to have a situation to develop long-winded, intriguing ideas... Dennis
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30/30 or 25/35 and if you're feeling extra sporty do an Ackley version of the aforementioned.
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...(Two of my .405's are a #1 and a Custom B-78, and a M-95 Win.)
....The .348 because I have a M-71 Dlx,...
GH Bah. Always wanted a .405 and also a M71 DeLuxe. Somebody else mentioned JD Jones - the .375 JDJ actually wouldn't be a bad choice, either. Maybe a wildcat....470 Nitro necked to .338
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Have you thought about a 6.5x57R? Brass is easy to either buy or form from 7x57R or 8x57R. In a strong single shot it moves along briskly enough to make it a fine choice for medium game.
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How about a 7x57R? (Hint...I'll send you some brass .) If you want an American cartridge, how about a .33 Win, from way back when? Then, for a good-modern, think about a 7mm STE, aka a .284/.358. Sounds nice to have a situation to develop long-winded, intriguing ideas... Dennis Dennis, Nice to see you posting again... (BTW... I loved the "Pirate" look) I had not thought of the 7x57R, Altho' I have a 1-A in 7x57. As you know, I have a #3 in .356 Win. A 7mm STE would not be a bad companion.
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30/30 or 25/35 and if you're feeling extra sporty do an Ackley version of the aforementioned. Steely, Already have a Savage M-219 in .30-30 Ackley Imp. (And a T/C Contender in .25-35)
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Have you thought about a 6.5x57R? Regards Rick, Being the 6.5 slut that I am, that is an excellent option. Especially since, I already have the dies.
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[I have been wanting a sgl shot in 6.5 Jap just for S&Gs but that would be expensive and no expectation of return on my investment.] [After all, who, besides me, would want a rifle in 6.5 Jap?] Then why not something anyone would want - a 6.5 Swede ?[I have a new Pac-Nor turned blank in 6.5, (1~8 twist)] - doh .
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Rangr, Excellent and logical suggestion, however I already have a Ruger K1-A in 6.5x55...
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577 Nitro, cuzz we could go on forever guessing what you have and don't have, but I'll go out on a limb and say you ain't got a #1 in that.
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i have a 35 wellan and a 405 the 45-70 270 and a bunch more single shots that 45-70 bufflo hunter 32 in barrel is the number 1 then 270 405 35 its what ever the hunt i go on mine lately is just white tails so they will all work but 18 month at a gun shop no way don't take that long for a barrel on less he doing it with a hammer in file
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