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When that P14 goes "on the block", you can just start the block with me.
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Cat', While the 6.5/.45-70 does have a certain appeal, I would just as soon limit my selection to dies I already own, rather that have to buy yet another $100 set of dies...  GH That's the cool thing, this deal comes WITH the dies!! However, I saw a pic of a very nice highwall in 25 Krag many years ago - American rifleman I think,( probably about a 1950's issue)and it had a Lyman Super targetspot on it. I thought that was pretty neat as well. In any event, yup, I think that halfround/octagon is now the cool way to go for a custom single shot. Dang, that crack-barreled wildcat is callin' my name AGAIN!! Cat
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Just a caution: MANY versions of the .25 Krag out there. You need to specify which one you want; in general, the Short versions are meant to duplicate the .250-3000 and the full-length versions are meant to duplicate the .257 or (.25 Roberts as it was originally called) or the earliest versions of the .25-06. My GUESS is that Pacnor has one of the full-length ones, but you need to find out and also find out who makes dies for that exact version. A great ctg. or ctgs. A friend of mine has a Win Hi-wall made by P.O. Ackley in .25 Ackley Improved Krag. He can equal factory .25-06 performance in it (it has a 26" barrel).
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I would have to agree with those who suggested the 6.5x57R. You have a 6.5mm barrel. It's a rimmed cartridge. It's a bit exotic but components are available. It should make a great hunting round in the No.1. What's not to like?
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Just a caution: MANY versions of the .25 Krag out there. You need to specify which one you want; in general, the Short versions are meant to duplicate the .250-3000 and the full-length versions are meant to duplicate the .257 or (.25 Roberts as it was originally called) or the earliest versions of the .25-06. My GUESS is that Pacnor has one of the full-length ones. Mike, My dies are RCBS and are marked merly .25 Krag. I'm assuming that is the full length one. GH
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I would have to agree with those who suggested the 6.5x57R. You have a 6.5mm barrel. It's a rimmed cartridge. It's a bit exotic but components are available. It should make a great hunting round in the No.1. What's not to like? While the 6.5x57 has a certain appeal to a rifle looney like me. I have no less than a dozen rifles chambered in the various 6.5 calibers. (Including 5; 6.5x55's and two 6.5/06's, and two 6.5 Rem Mags. While I have only a .257 "Bob", a .250-3000, and 2 .25-06's in .25 cal. Thus, the idea of evening up the disparity, seems attractive. On a side note, I see no reason why my 6.5x57 dies could not be used to load 6.5x57R cases with merely a change of a shell holder.
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When that P14 goes "on the block", you can just start the block with me. Sean, I'm now heading down to the "Cave", marker in hand, to scribe your name on the P-14. When I begin my 1-A project in .303, it can be yours.... GH
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When that P14 goes "on the block", you can just start the block with me. Sean, I'm now heading down to the "Cave", marker in hand, to scribe your name on the P-14. When I begin my 1-A project in .303, it can be yours.... GH You're going to do a .303 Brit project as well? COOL! ( see a No.1 trend here...?) Cat
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You're going to do a .303 Brit project as well?
COOL! ( see a No.1 trend here...?)
Cat Cat, I've been thinking of a No: 1-A in the .303 for a while, now. Reason I don't want a #3 in .303, is because I already have a #3 in .30-40 Krag. Thus to make one in .303 would be rather redundant, don't you think? BTW my Krag wears a M-8 Leupold 3x with CPC reticle... It's just that the .303 is a ways down on my list of priorities. I can only do 1 or 2 semi-custom guns per year. And besides, I need another 1-A for a donor (Or maybe two...) GH
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We might be able to take total control of this forum , GH. just think, a "single shot rimmed forum"!! Cat
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Cat, Now, I have several #1's in rimless cartridges, and I like 'em, But a medium bore RIMMED chambering really gets my undivided attention! (I know the .303 is a small-bore, but it's close!) Between the two of us, perhaps we can coerce a few others to jump on the band wagon...  GH
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When that P14 goes "on the block", you can just start the block with me. Sean, I'm now heading down to the "Cave", marker in hand, to scribe your name on the P-14. When I begin my 1-A project in .303, it can be yours.... GH Works for me. I see "Epps" written all over that one.............. or perhaps 9.3x.303 British.........
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When that P14 goes "on the block", you can just start the block with me. Sean, I'm now heading down to the "Cave", marker in hand, to scribe your name on the P-14. When I begin my 1-A project in .303, it can be yours.... GH Works for me. I see "Epps" written all over that one.............. or perhaps 9.3x.303 British......... Now THAT would be cool! I have a buddy with a 35/.303IMP, pretty neat as well.... Cat
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FWIW, the .303 necks up beautifully to .366". I've made a few dummy rounds using military brass, and running them first through a 8x57 expander, then a .357 expander, and finally a 9.3x62 expander. Seating 270 grain Speers with the 9.3 seater is easy, and the cases are very uniform.
Case capacity measures roughly the same as the 9.3x57.
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FWIW, the .303 necks up beautifully to .366". I've made a few dummy rounds using military brass, and running them first through a 8x57 expander, then a .357 expander, and finally a 9.3x62 expander. Seating 270 grain Speers with the 9.3 seater is easy, and the cases are very uniform.
Case capacity measures roughly the same as the 9.3x57. Says I to Me: I did not read that post.... I did not ready that post.... I don't need a 9.3 Rimmed....  ... GH
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FWIW, the .303 necks up beautifully to .366". I've made a few dummy rounds using military brass, and running them first through a 8x57 expander, then a .357 expander, and finally a 9.3x62 expander. Seating 270 grain Speers with the 9.3 seater is easy, and the cases are very uniform.
Case capacity measures roughly the same as the 9.3x57. Says I to Me: I did not read that post.... I did not ready that post.... I don't need a 9.3 Rimmed.... ... GH Pics later........................
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Pics later........................ Bah! ... Humbug!
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Could you build that round so that you could use 9.3x57 dies to reload it...? Just a random thought... ? Dennis
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FWIW, the .303 necks up beautifully to .366". I've made a few dummy rounds using military brass, and running them first through a 8x57 expander, then a .357 expander, and finally a 9.3x62 expander. Seating 270 grain Speers with the 9.3 seater is easy, and the cases are very uniform.
Case capacity measures roughly the same as the 9.3x57. In BP terms,....that's VERY close to the .38-50 Remington Hepburn cartridge,.....I think the Rem .30 40 Krag brass (my Reamer's based on that brass) is a mite longer than the .303,.....but don't quote me on that. Semper rimmed cartridges in single shots,..... GTC
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Necking up the .303, you'd have a slightly improved .35 Remington. The .303 holds 3.6 cc water, the 35 Remington case holds 3.4 or so.
You might be better off using a 7.62 x 54 R necked up. The Russian holds 3.8 cc.
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