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where do you find those blank ?? awesome.. and what do the cost ?
i want one..
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Nice Stuff! I'm busy checkering the grip panels on my 1911 and came here for some ideas about a project, as always, never let down when surfing photos. Whew, nice!
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Here's what you need to find out. Is the blank quarter sawn or slab sawn? If it's quarter sawn what you see on the outside is pretty much what you'll see when it's turned. If it's a slab sawn you will probably have the same amount of figure as you see before it's turned but it may nor be in the same places.
I'll post some pics when I get home.
Great rifle Butch! I have got to go see it in person one day.
Terry Could expound a little more on quarter sawn or slab sawn. How are either one cut?
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Been admiring Terry's rifles coming together for the past few years. They're always class. And Butch's Mexican 7x57 is a real beauty. Butch, did David Christman profile the half octagon barrel? This is the only one I can find before and after pictures of cheers, - stu
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Could expound a little more on quarter sawn or slab sawn. How are either one cut?
Tim, Here's a diagram I pulled off the net Look at Terry's Husqvarna above and you'll see it really matches this 1/4 sawn profile. If you search quarter sawn wood you'll get tons more information. cheers, - stu
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Yes, what Stu posted is a good illustration. What happens as the the wood goes from the root to the trunk it turns outwards because the the tree is thicker at the base than the center. Now look at Stu's "slab cut" picture and imagine, when you go from the tip of the blank to the butt the wood isn't going to be uniform because the grain in the tree is turning outwards because it's larger at the bottom and the growth are curved inside the blank. So, when the blank is turned what you see on the out side may not be on the inside where the finished stock is. This isn't always a bad thing but, you can't always look at a slab sawn blank and get an idea of what it's going to look like turned. Here is the top view of a slab sawn piece of Turkish walnut. See how the grain is turning out out the wood as it goes down the blank? Like I said this isn't really a bad thing, but it's had to judge where the figure will fall when it's turned. We ca guess about where it'll be and how much because we can see all 4 sides. They aren't a mirror of the stock though. Now for quarter sawn. Look how all the growth rings are uniforn. What you see on the outside of this blank is what it's going to look like on the inside when it's turned. This is because the grain is running the same direction as the blank. The down side for wood cutters and quarter sawn blanks is there is much waste and you don't get nearly as many as with a slab sawn tree. The plus side is these quarter sawn blanks are worth much more money. Terry
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where do you find those blank ?? awesome.. and what do the cost ?
i want one..
I'm assuming you're talking about the bottom blank, right? That one was outragous. They were asking $2800 for it and I got it for $2400 which is twice as much as I've ever paid for a blank in my life. It was a once in a lifetime thing though and that wood simply had to go on my rifle. I bought from Dressels and they let me stick it layaway for a LONG time. You can get a stick of walnut that "to die for" much cheaper and I do mean MUCH cheaper but when you find one in that caliber be prepared to pay. The one that went on the Mini Mauser was $1400 which is a lot better and a very nice stick of wood. I paid $450 for the one for the Husky and really like it too. Terry
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Stu, that's a nice looking stock! What's it bolted to?
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Ruger No.1 I posted a few more pics on AR here cheers, - stu
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Oh my, ,,,,,That is sweet!
I remember seeing the metal work in the white but didn't know it was finished. I love it.
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That is stunning. I love the color. I hope you have plans of checkering it.
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That is stunning. I love the color. I hope you have plans of checkering it.
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Terry Very nice stocks!
I am not seeing how the 223 mini-mauser could be quarter-sawn though... Those growth rings on the starboard side look flat-sawn.
The biggest "issue" with flat-sawn wood is the differences in movement between the tangential and radial planes when moisture content changes. It moves a lot more in the tangential and the difference sets up stresses. That issue is moot when dealing with good walnut, long-cured.
Chiron has a rep for sending out wood much wetter and newer than claimed and there is no way I would buy from them unless the blank was going to sit a very long time before cutting. Like a decade...
A point in defense of the best Turkish is something which is very difficult to catch in a photo. The best stuff has depth when finished that is amazing. It has been likened to looking into a well. I have seen many extremely high end California blanks and none has been close to a good Turkish blank for depth.
I have a couple blanks right now that are amazing... And a bunch of two-piecers. art
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All nice stocks...I have used a lot of Chirons wood and it comes the same color as their photos to me..Most of the time when finished it will be lighter, but a lot of that can be controled by the finish..If you mix a lot of Alkanet root with the finish it comes out blood red and very English..I also use Brownells dye that you can mix and btw you can dye a stock with that purple horse medicine (Jensen Violet) it is water like in consistency and is made from Walnut wood juice..Very nice color if you like dark and still not hide the grain. I have seen a couple of nice stocks with this treatment..Have not used it myself but only because I keep forgetting or use it up on my horses!! I also buy most of my wood from Bill Dowtins Old World Walnut, it is Russian Circasian and Bill is apparantly a partner in the Mill in Tajikistan..You can get a very nice piece of walnut from Bill or Chiron for about $500 to $700. I can't post pics here but I am just finishhing a .416 Rem with a piece of Chiron wood I bought at auction..Dennis Olson who says very little about anything was impressed with this peice of wood. It has turned out very nice..I took pictures of each step or almost each step of the stock building and finishing, the tools I use etc. If they turn out well I may do some kind of a write up on it..
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thanks everybody for chiming in!!!!!!! thought there might be a lot more but greatful for all the postings! D O M I T !
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Rolly, for me hunting with a nice rifle has always increased the pleasure of the hunt. That is the best explanation/answer I've heard. I actually get embarrassed when I take one out of the case and hear the "thats too nice, I'd be afraid to scratch it" etc. I get brain lock and just mumble its what I do, I'll be careful. Excellent answer without sounding pompous.
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Just saw this thread. Now, I have to change my shirt, because I slobbered down the front of it. Beautiful rifles here Gun porn of the finest caliber.
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Terry, that stock from Dressels is one of the nicest I have ever seen. Apparently I screwed up and bought a sorry, crossgrained stock on this rifle. I guess when it gets here I'll have to find someone to stock it in black walnut. Maybe someone will feel sorry for me and cut me a deal on a blank. ss
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