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I have heard from two different and remote from each other but somewhat unreliable sources now, that Remington will offer in the year 2010 a Classic 700 Rifle in caliber 5.6x52R? I am puzzled by this if true - I think that this is also known as the old 22 Savage High-Power cartridge? Has anyone else heard anything regarding the 2010 Remington Classic offering? I am not sure if it can be made as a repeater with the rimmed case? Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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A rimmed repeater? Sure! Ask all the British and Canadian troops from two world wars how their 303 British worked in the bolt action Lee Enfield repeaters. Just have to make sure that each successive rim is ahead of the one below it -- a real cinch.
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Well ... the 220Swift is semi-rimmed as is the 225Win. Why not? If hey can get it to work ... good on them. But will it have a 0.227" bore or 0.224"? Cheers... Con
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The .22 High Power never was a real bolt action cartridge, anyway, and not by Remington.
If they have run out of ideas, and are scraping the bottom of the American bucket, why don't they do some more foreign cartridges, like the 7x64mm and .303 Brit, or just start over with the .30-06 and .270 Win, with nice bluing, higher grade wood, jeweled bolt, and distinctive checkering, on the level of the previous Model 70 Supergrades?
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I would say no i dont think the sales of that caliber would make the bean counters happy in remington land.
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26" 240Wby might be nice. I'd be much more likely to buy one of them than I would a 5.6x52R.
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Sounds like a bad choice to me, say it isn't so!
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I thought they discontinued the Classic series altogether either last year or the year before?
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People tend to call the current CDL, Classic Deluxe, by just Classic which unfortunately clouds the issue.
Sort of like the Vari-X vs. VX thing with Leupold.
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no, they are going to chamber the 38-55, rimfire... with detatchable tubular magazine. and a pistol grip mannlicher takedown stock. by mcmillan.
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Don't say that too loud. Remington might be listening.
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Was the '09 model in .257 Roberts?
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The Classics are over. They were a set series. I can't remember what the last one was, perhaps 7-08 or .300Savage maybe. Anyway, it was a couple of years ago.
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The Remington M700 Ltd Edition Classic series ended in 2005 with the .308 Win.
According to what I was told when I called Remington and complained about the discontiuation of the series; The Classic Series had run it's course, and would NOT be revived. They said it, and I believe it.
As far as the Remington M-700 goes in .22 Hi-Power goes: I can't recall that Remington has EVER made a rifle with a .228" groove diameter... Also, Remington has NEVER made a M-700 in a rimmed case... (Semi-rimmed, yes; .220 Swift)
According to CoTW, the .22 Savage Hi-Power has been obsolete since the 1930's Logic does not favor it ever being resurrected. Be that as it may...
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I would love to have a 700 Classic in .358 Winchester.
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I believe the last of the Classics ended with the 100th Anniv. of the 30/06, calling it something else. I could be wrong....
The 264 WM, 257 Wby. and 257 BYOB were on this SS, fluted, wood stocked platform.
The 222 Magnum would get my vote, should they decide to still offer some retro.
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Duckster: The 2,008 "Classic" was in caliber 260 Remington according to my 2,008 Remington catalog. Someone "borrowed" my 2,009 catalog and I can't answer your quiry right now - but soon I hope to, when I find the catalog. The Model is now called the Model 700 CDL - SF "Limited Edition". Will get back to you. I wonder if the CDL SF stands for Classic Deluxe - Stainless Fluted? Anyway it still maintains most ALL the physical attributes of the long line of other Classic 700 and I call it the "Classic" as do many folks I have spoken with and traded guns with. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy PS: I have many of the line of Classic 700's including those in 17 Remington, 221 Remington Fireball, 222 Remington (two of these - they shoot SO well!), 223 Remington and 7mm Remington Magnum. In the past I have owned other 700 Classics in the following calibers 22-250 Remington, 220 Swift, 6mm Remington, 257 Roberts and 300 Savage. Virtually every Classic I have owned and shot did shoot well to VERY well! I don't know why - they are such a simple and unsophisticated gun they just tended to all shoot better than I expected with their light barrels and lack of bedding care.
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HawkI: I agree with you most whole heartedly! I would give a good tooth if only Remington would offer a "Classic" in 222 Remington Magnum! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Jericho: I personally know 3 fellow Big Game Hunters that have Remington 700 Classics in caliber 35 Whelen - thats not a 358 Winchester but none the less its a bolt action 35 caliber Rifle! I have seen two of those three 35 Whelen owners kill mature Bull Elk with a single shot apiece using their Classic 35 Whelen's! The folks at Remington offered the 35 Whelen in the 700 Classic back in 1988. I have a couple of Winchester Model 70's in caliber 358 Winchester but they are so rare and valuable nowadays that I could never take them afield. At one time I also owned a Winchester Model 88 in caliber 358 Winchester - I wish I had THAT ONE back! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Mathman: I finally found my 2,009 Remington catalog, and the 2,009 CDL - SF "Limited Edition" "Classic" definitely was in caliber 257 Roberts! According to my records that is a "duplication" of "Class-isity" from 1982 when they offered the 257 Roberts back then in the 700 Classic for THAT year! I do remember back in 1985 at all the Gunshows on the northern west coast the Canadian Hunters (and a few Canadian guides) were haunting the American Gunshows for the 700 Classic of that year which was offered in 350 Remington Magnum! It seems they had run out of Remington carbines (660's or 600's - I forget) in that 350 Remington Magnum Caliber and wanted to replenish their needs for that caliber. To this day Classics in 350 Remington Magnum are rather "pricey". I don't know if the issue is now "clouded" like you describe - maybe it is - but again I trade guns with lots of folks who don't seem confused or hesitant to refer to the recent 700 CDL - SF "Limited Editions" as "Classics". I shared Gunshow tables with my main man Dan from Enumclaw, Washington and he had a new in the box 257 Roberts CDL - SF and it WAS the most handled Rifle at that Missoula, Montana Gunshow this spring! He could have sold it many dozens of times (maybe 10 DOZEN!) as that Rifle has absolutely outstandingly beautiful wood on it! Alas - my friend is kind of an ego-istic guy and he was just trolling his "gem" to get attention I think! I even offered to buy it from him, BUT NOOOOO.... he wouldn't sell - I'll get even with him! Long live the Remington 700 Classic (or CDL - SF "Limited Edition") line! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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