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I like to start the kids out with a 223AI...
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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I was going to say a youth 20ga would probably be a better bet for his age and size. Thats what I started with, a Mossberg 20ga and rifled Winchester slugs. Mine is mostly sarcasm and much on archaic laws..... I did mention hitting, carrying, enjoying. No on the 20 gauge for ungulates if a choice can be made.
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I like to start the kids out with a 223AI... I bet that dude had that mustache in sixth grade....
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Exactly what i started with at 9 (iron sights)parker hale
I don't remember any recoil but i didn't shoot paper either, prolly too much adrenaline.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Pard,that's Paul's 5th Grade Field Trip pic,that you are gawking......................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Campfire Oracle
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Campfire Kahuna
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It'd be difficult to argue the "merits" of giving a kid a heavy,hard recoiling rifle and going the extra mile to have him refrain practice to boot.
Just sayin'...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Campfire Kahuna
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Set the kids up for success,not failure..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I agree, but i remember the time and my parents didn't have a lot of money, if i remember right it was a smokin deal and my dad bought it. I had shot plenty with small guns and maybe he thought if i was lucky enough to get a shot and kill, i would'nt flinch?
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The 270 will be too much for most 9 year olds.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I betcha the 270Win is easily too much for 80% of the gents offering "advice" on this thread alone..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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The 270 is a little much for some folks I see at the range, no doubt.
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I used reduced loads to start my daughter at age 12 with a relatively light .270 (Ruger #1A); just the ticket.
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I betcha the 270Win is easily too much for 80% of the gents offering "advice" on this thread alone.................. it wont take to long for 80 % of the people on this thread to figure out your a dumass why dont you read and learn a little
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Got to agree with PWC, It's what I started with and it set my progression in shooting accuracy back quite a ways. If legal a 223, or if not a 243 or 250 Sav. will be easier to learn good habits with and work great well into second childhood. I'll give up easy shooting rifles for BIG game but deer ain't big or hard to kill.
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I would agree that the 270 is too much for a child. I was forced to learn with a 270 at a young age and learned poor habits such a flinching and jerking the trigger. Those habits stayed with me until recently when I started reloading and working up loads. I had to really concentrate on the same shooting routine when testing new loads. That and the fact that I shoot at least once a week instead of right before season to check gun. I would say get a 243 or 7-08 and have them shoot a lot. Rick
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I would say it's too much. I have a 12 year old boy, 4" 10" and 100+ lbs - he's shot 22 a fair amount. He was started on and currently uses a Rem M7 youth model in 7mm-08. I started him on light loads and currently load a 120 gr bullet over the starting loads listed in the book. I started with a 243. I'd recommend a light weight 243/260/7mm-08/250 savage etc....
Regards,
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