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If you know the approximate range and the bullet trajectory, it doesn't matter how much the bullet drops. If you don't have that information, a change in caliber won't help that much. With the above info in hand, a 45-70 would be fine at 400 yards. Take the 30-06, a rangefinder and a trajectory chart and win the day.

TC

TC: Yeah..... I'd like to see you with a 45/70, 5 seconds to shoot,,and a large buck at 350.....call me and tell me how that one went for ya...... I'll pay for the phone call..that stuff sounds nice on the internet...but can't cut mustard in the field.Ask poor Dan......he doesn't wanna deal with 2 feet of drop at 400.....and I don't blame him!

You guys crack me up....of course trajectory matters;especially inside 400 yards and there is no way anyone will convince me that these animals give enough time to be dickin' with LRF's....sometimes,sure...but if confronted with a 350 yard shot,no LRF reading.....well, you can deal with 18" of drop if you want......I won't

6-7" is more like it....

The 270 doesn't come close to a 7 mag shooting a 120 at 3,500 mv.
My bullet choice for Cows deer in AZ. Makes a great mule deer load as well.

With a 300 yard zero it's only 7" low at 400 and 20" low at
500. Mid-range is only 3" high. That's flat!

Also, talk about versatility.
The 270 doesn't hold a candle light to a 7 mag shooting a 180 Berger VLD at 2,950 for long distance.

It's not even a comparison.

Thats just an errant rumor spread 100 yrs ago by some guy named Bell....

Ingwe

He shot irons....in the puckerbrush....

Before you put out the cash for a new rifle, push some 130 gr. TTSXs hard through your 06. You may have a flatter shooting death ray in your hands than you think. Nothing you have named will not succumb to it - readily.

Gee, my experience (on quite a few animals in various places from southern South Africa to northern North America) is that the .30-06 with a 180 will do quite well out to 400+ on many b ig game animals. It may not shoot quite as flat or drift less in the wind than some others, but if you KNOW the load it will do it pretty easily.

If you want a new rifle, why not? But your .30-06 will do the job, quite neatly.

oldtrapper: Yes ,maybe true....but that's just one bullet,one load....and before you do that you have to "like" TTSX...

Besides,whatever the 06 does with a 130 TTSX, the 7 mag still does more with a 120 TTSX;it gets a face lift from light,tough bullets, too.There is just no gettin' around powder capacity.... :)like death and taxes.....

Bingo...we got a winner!

I see my last statement as a threshold beyond which lies the merely moot.

Bob,

Check out this 7 mag action.

http://greybullprecision.com/VideoGallery/BearHunt/tabid/61/Default.aspx

True! The casing or brass is just the engine driving the projectile.

Of the .277, .284 and .308 pills in "like" weights and profiles (ballistic shape and proportions), for anywhere on this planet the 7mm bore is indeed the most efficient.

+1 Hard to argue with success!

Altho if I chose the '06 as a "one" go-to riffle for everything, I'd have compare the 200grn Nosler to the 180grainer before choosing which "one."

I may not be a math wizz kid...but I've fired thousands of all three rounds to 600 yards,and hunted the west with all three cartridges for decades.I can read a chronograph and a ruler.And I know a dead animal when I see it....other than with stuff like a Berger(new on the scene),the 280 has nothing on a 270;and the 7RM beats them both at distance.You're free to play with ballistic table if you want......I'd rather shoot and hunt to get my info.

There is no doubt that the 7mm Rem Mag pushing 160-gr boattail bullets, is a superior 300 to 400 yard rifle to the factory .270, .280 or .30-06 shooting anything with reasonable pressures.

For me, the .270 is a great deer rifle, and can work in lighter rifles, with 22-inch barrels, and moderate recoil, using lighter bullets.

The .30-06 works in 22-inch rifles with moderate recoil.

The .280 just splits the difference between the .270 and .30-06.

The only downside to the 7mm RM is that most of them are bigger, substantially heavier and 2.5 inches longer than a .30-06. If you don't have a .30-06, or have a light .30-06, and a horse to carry your 7mm RM, get the 7mm RM. If you have a big, strong, heavy, 24-inch barrel .30-06, you can use Federal HE or Hornady Light Magnum or handload the 165-gr to 3,000 fps, and the 180-gr to 2850 or more without bad recoil.

Run the ballistics calculators, take your .30-06 with the above ammo to the range, shoot it alongside a friend's 7mm Rem Mag, or 2 or 3 of them. Talk to hunters personally who use both on big game at long range.

If you still think a .30-06 won't do what you want, buy a .338 Win Mag.
I'm always going to try to close the distance to under 300 yards.

Whatever! But why did you try to assert your emotionalistic-non-facts as facts? If you've found something that works for you, great! Have at it! Go have fun with it. But don't be surprised when everyone doesn't agree with you simply because you said so! (same with my views)

But I always have to roll my eyes when someone tries to schmooze others on "what's magical" (or a mysterically the end-all round round for some purpose).

For myself I have done well knowing/learning what to expect from a round or load, then going to the range and doing it. What the next guy does at that point doesn't often matter after that, altho I do appreciate posts from writers whove been there and done it like Muledeer (just one example).

BTW, I know a dead gaminal when i see one too!

ADDED: The average big game hunter isn't going to be able to tell the [effective] difference between a .270-.280-.30/06 in the game fields, esp when shooting something (assuming proper ammo with a correct bullet type is used for the gaminal being killed).

From a practical POV, for most folks the cartridges mentioned in this thread will work just fine - provided said hunter is a good shot!

Also, I've shot the .270W extensively. Its a good round altho there are better ones (for me). Taken 2 elk with it, 6 pronghorns and more than a dozen mulies.

If its all I had, I'd be quite confident with it, altho I'd be anxious to change it (swap or rebarrel it) to a .280 or .3006.

To get outta this box we need a 7mm Weatherby mag in a re barreled M70. (grin)

Does everybody realize we're talking about the differences in drop of less than 10" at 500 yards between the 3-4 cartridges mentioned thus far.

At 400 - the stated distance of the original poster - its more like 4-5".

7RM still rules............. <g>