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Best bar none--Zeiss Diavari
Best Value--Zeiss Conquest or Bushnell Elite 4200


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but does Swaro,S&B and Zeiss make scopes for shotguns,.22's the #1 BR scope and Scouts or any tubes under 20 ozs?


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For me a good scope is a european scope. Never ever have they failed......


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but does Swaro,S&B and Zeiss make scopes for shotguns,.22's the #1 BR scope and Scouts or any tubes under 20 ozs?


They make scopes that can be used on shotguns,rimfires,or target use.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Best bar none--Zeiss Diavari
Best Value--Zeiss Conquest or Bushnell Elite 4200


Best value: AGREED!

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Originally Posted by rifle
but does Swaro,S&B and Zeiss make scopes for shotguns,.22's the #1 BR scope and Scouts or any tubes under 20 ozs?



It's a complete misconception that Zeiss and Swarovski Scopes are particularly heavy. Both make 30mm tube scopes with 56mm! objectives that weigh less than 20oz. They both make 30mm tube scopes with 50mm objectives that are lighter than some makers 1" tube scopes with 40mm objectives.....................................DJ


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My vote is for the Zeiss Diavari 3-12x56 with 30mm tube. It's big, but it's awesome. Just put one on my Tikka T3 .300wm and IMHO it's the only way to fly.
In all honesty I'd be happy with either the Swarovski Z6 or the Schmidt & Bender Summit as well ( have used a mate's S&M ), but a Zeiss came up at the right price and I love it.

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well i agree on the zeiss and they are way lighter than S&B's and usually swaro...
however i wouldnt want to lug a 56mm tube through the brush no matter how light

the 2.5-10x42 is so bright i could imagine needing the 56..


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For hunting, any of the Zeiss, Swaro and S&B in the 2.5/3-10/12 in 50mm could be the best scope money can buy. The Zeiss has the best optics per oz. At any oz, the S&B has the best optics (best resolution, worse flare) but it�s the heaviest(but very well build). If I have to choose between the two, I would be so confused I would probably pick the Swaro(best balance in optics/oz and build/oz). If you want better optics than the above mentioned �best scopes�, chose any of the above in 56mm. If all of the above scopes are too heavy, chose any of the above in 42mm. For best in optics/$ and build/$, Zeiss Conquest. Aic

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For hunting, any of the Zeiss, Swaro and S&B in the 2.5/3-10/12 in 50mm could be the best scope money can buy. The Zeiss has the best optics per oz. At any oz, the S&B has the best optics (best resolution, worse flare) but it�s the heaviest(but very well build). If I have to choose between the two, I would be so confused I would probably pick the Swaro(best balance in optics/oz and build/oz). If you want better optics than the above mentioned �best scopes�, chose any of the above in 56mm. If all of the above scopes are too heavy, chose any of the above in 42mm. For best in optics/$ and build/$, Zeiss Conquest. Aic

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$$ no object, excellent "all-around" hunting scope, I really like the Zeiss Victory Diavari T* VM/V 2.5-10x42mm #4

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