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2 guns is always better!
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"Maybe I should scope the guide gun. Find a high BC bullet so I can shoot out to 150 yards if needed."
My 45-70's will shoot a lot farther than 150 yards with any bullet. It sounds like you have been reading too many magazine articles.
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"Maybe I should scope the guide gun. Find a high BC bullet so I can shoot out to 150 yards if needed."
My 45-70's will shoot a lot farther than 150 yards with any bullet. It sounds like you have been reading too many magazine articles.
Don't waste my $ on too many magazines actually. What kind of "hunting range" trajectories are you getting with your bullet choices and muzzle velocities?
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LeverEvolution I am good out to 250 yds easily with my iron sights.
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The XLR is just too long IMO. If I could get one cheap I'd cut it down to 20".
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The XLR is just too long IMO. If I could get one cheap I'd cut it down to 20". 100% spot on. What is the point of having a sveltish lever but with a long barrel. Kinda kills the concept.
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My 22" 1895 seems to balance perfectly. Any longer would be muzzle heavy, any shorter would be muzzle light, but to each his own.
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The XLR is just too long IMO. If I could get one cheap I'd cut it down to 20". 100% spot on. What is the point of having a sveltish lever but with a long barrel. Kinda kills the concept. I love mine! Simply no use for an abbreviated version. According you your line of logic I should chop my 1886 45/90 too?
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Of 17 different loads from 250 grains to 400,the average of those loads shot first in a 24" Test Barrel then in the Guide Gun was 26.66 fps per barrel inch by Rick Jamison.
Jayco That looks about right from my experience with a GG and 3 Marlins with 22" tubes. I think the standard model (22")is the right compromise. I, personally, like the pistol grip over the straight grip, and you'll get all the velocity needed to 300 yds even with 400s. My favorite loads are two: a 405 Rem at 2100 fps and a 465gr hardcast at 1900 fps. That'll get 'er done on anything in N.A. Bob www.bigbores.ca
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The XLR is just too long IMO. If I could get one cheap I'd cut it down to 20". 100% spot on. What is the point of having a sveltish lever but with a long barrel. Kinda kills the concept. I love mine! Simply no use for an abbreviated version. According you your line of logic I should chop my 1886 45/90 too? No I would not chop that of course. When I hear Marlin big bore the first thing that comes to my mind is elk in the timber. To me that spells guide gun. If I carry the XLR might as well carry my 300 RUM. Really it just boils down to personal preference.
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If I'm gonna haual an XLR around I may as well carry my 700CDL in .30-06.
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You guys realize you are talking 6 inches or less of barrel length? And very little gain in weight...... Kind of like picking fly schitt out of pepper. If you like the looks that is one thing, but an increase in speed of use? Not buying it.
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Almost no velocity gain but much more cumbersome and awkward.
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Almost no velocity gain but much more cumbersome and awkward. Only if you are mentally handicapped. If you like the looks fine, but don't try to feed me a line of bullschitt. Like I said....not buying it. I have used both. XLR is just as quick in handling as a guide gun. Besides if I wanted to carry a short gun I would carry a Model 29.
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I've carried both as well. For less than 100fps velocity gain????
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Can't help it if you are so weak you cannot handle an extra ounce or 2. My condolences! At the risk of repeating myself it is a only a matter of aesthetics.
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It's the extra foot of gun hanging up on everything in sight that's the pits. I guess if you never get out of a heated box blind or the truck cab it isn't so bad.
Come to FL and I'll show you the swamp;)
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You funny Swampy...that comment shows you don't know schitt about me. Been to FL....you been to WY? Also shows you think 2 inches is 6. Merry Christmas Swampy!
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I don't know anything about you but I know I wouldn't own an XLR for 1/2 price unless I could have a gunsmith cut it to 20". I'm a hunter and I need tools I can use.
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