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choices choices but if I had to gauge it by what roams the country side in my neck of the woods Id go 257X57 and 7X57.....
broken bones broken heart stripped down an torn apart a lil rust but Im still runnin countin miles countin tears twisted roads and shiftin gears year after year its all or nothin Im not home and Im not lost just holdin on 2 what I got...God and Guns
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A .270 and a .300 Magnum of some sort makes a lot of sense.
My everyday combo is a 30-06 and a .338. Of course I own more than two.
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WOW, thank you all for the thoughtful input. This really seems to be a great forum...after reading all your posts, I should answer some of the questions/assumptions for clarification, please feel free to refine your input based on the following:
1. Big Brown Bears (big money guided trophy hunts)are out for this decade. I am only hunting for meat, excercise, and face time with God's ceation for now.
2. Reloading: not yet, hopefully someday. Ammo cost is a factor, now thatyou mention it...I am not a total cheapskate (like my brother :), but to be practical, cheaper ammo means more shooting, right?
3. RE: Smaller rifle- maybe I should lean more toward the larger calibers (.243, .25-06, etc.)of your recommemdations since I care more having an extra deer rifle for family to share than zapping prairie dogs for example...sure I will enjoy the shooting practice on ground hogs to help a farmer maintain his fields, or coyotes.
4. RE: recoil, it only SOMEWHAT of a concern...while I am not afraid to shoot bigger gun, I have been told that shooting better is more important than massive power...
hopefully, this info allows all of your collective years of wisdom to be applied more precisely... With this clarified criteria it's got .243 and .308/30-06 written all over it. For what you describe I don't know what would be more available and cost effective and cover your needs better. I will amend my other recommendation based upon your new criteria. .25-06 and .30-06, and when you start to reload, you can use the same cases for both rounds.
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I'm solidly in the 243 and 7mmRM club given the conditions cited.
I could also go 243/300WM as well.
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When I pared down my rifles, I went with .264 Win and .358 Norma. That might not be ideal for a non handloader, so something like a .280 and .338 or .270 and .325 WSM make sense to me.
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A .308 and a .308 (backup).
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Excellent-Kills all out of all proportion to the ballistics on paper, kind of an understated elegance, if that can be said about a cartridge. Perfect round for someone allergic to magnum mania.
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I'll vote for 22-250/243 and 7mm RM/300WM
If you reload (or plan to), I'd go with a 243 or 260 and a 300 WSM.
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25-06 Rem and 30-06. Whats not to like!? You can load them with light or heavy bullets, depending what you're up to. And you might be using 1 or 2 powders to boot. Just a thought. Tom
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I'm thinking 243,308 or 25-06,30.06.
Naaa,just get a .308,spend the money saved on more ammo.
There is lots of good .308 loads out there.
Find which ammo. your rifle likes and shoot lots.
How well you shoot,means more than what you shoot.
But only ONE Yikes, I'm getting the shakes!!!
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Jeez, I'll keep playing if no one accepts the .223/.308 theorem.
I also strongly favor the Keith O'Connor solution:
A .270 Winchester and a .338 Winchester.
A damned adequate coyote rifle and a decent medium bore...
I have shot crows with a .270 and 100 grainers and killed one elk with a .338 210 NP. Both worked as advertised...
Were I starting totally from scratch, and had been reading this site, I'd get a .204, a .260 and a .375.
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A Tar-Hunt bolt action slug gun, or a Savage, because it allows me to gun hunt big game in any state.
A used Cooper .204 for varmints & paper. Still refuse to buy a new one from that company.
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I guess if I had to add a second,it would be the .338 mag or a 9.3x62.
The 6.5x55 has a lot going for it that,but you can't really read that from looking at it's "stats",but use one a while and load for it,it stands up real quick.
I own a lot of rifles and about 30+ calibers,this is the one that gets to go for a ride. I have not "built" a rifle in a while,but I keep running the thought of holding a rifle and thinking how would this be, re-barreled in 6.5 Swede?
To a handloader,85 to 160 grain bullets,all good killers,pretty well covers .243 to almost .30 caliber....
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I could not live without a smokepole and the benefit of the extended season that I get with it, so my personal choice would be for my favorite .54 Hawken, and a 25-06.
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Have 45 cal. and 50 cal. Hawken flinters and three 25-06s. Like the way ya think. ;O)
Don't know why anyone would only want two rifles, but the idea of a 223 or 243 for the small stuff and a 25-06, 308 or 30-06 for the bigger critters, has merit. Yeah, I know the 243 kills whitetails just fine.
Two of the same model rifles in diverse chamberings, also makes sense. They'll both have the same ergonomics, so should be easier to master and no confusion with the mechanical operation.
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243Win and 300Win...
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243Win and 300wsm...
good luck lots of great rounds. Make sure you get the rifle that fits you...
Be sure to look at Sako and Kimber rifles!!!!
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