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Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. badger #3663162 01/10/10
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,191 NW Montucky DanAdair Campfire Tracker
DanAdair Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,191 NW Montucky	I've learned that Turner 1903's and Brownells Latigo slings are relics from the stone age, and completely worthless. You either need the 3 Oz Uncle Mikes nylon "sling" Or a fancy padded one, that looks like something your Old Lady would like to see in her europeon handbag collection... Furthermore, only somebody shooting a "Match" rifle would need to use a real sling, as they apparently have NO use in real game fields (shooting off backpacks is where its at) I'm Irish... Of course I know how to patch drywall

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Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. DanAdair #3663178 01/10/10
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,016 Northern Nevada mcmurphrjk Campfire Tracker
mcmurphrjk Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,016 Northern Nevada	Originally Posted by DanAdair Furthermore, only somebody shooting a "Match" rifle would need to use a real sling, as they apparently have NO use in real game fields (shooting off backpacks is where its at) I guess the problem is, few know how to rig and use a Model of 1907 type sling anymore. They work well, and I have them and use them. But a backpack taint bad, neither. Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote. Marvin Simkin L.A. Times (1992)

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. mcmurphrjk #3663396 01/10/10
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,927 De-tox J Jocko_Slugshot Campfire Tracker
Jocko_Slugshot Campfire Tracker J Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,927 De-tox	Standard cup-and-core bullets (especially the round-nosed versions) won't kill anything, despite the fact the Benoits have killed roughly half a zillion trophy bucks over the last five or six decades with Remington Core-Lokts. Keep your gun-hand ready and your eyes peeled.

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Jocko_Slugshot #3663837 01/10/10
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,279 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,279	A TSX that failed didn't actually fail... “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Brad #3663869 01/10/10
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,371 West Slope, CO S Steven_CO Campfire Tracker
Steven_CO Campfire Tracker S Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,371 West Slope, CO	The 243 is the only gun for real elk hunters. Only 15 yd shots are acceptable. Anyone that uses anything larger to get longer range shots, is not a real hunter. Steve

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Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Steven_CO #3663903 01/10/10
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,749 Frisco, TEXAS djpaintless Campfire Tracker
djpaintless Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,749 Frisco, TEXAS	It's a whole lot easier being rude to people who you are not right in front of and won't deck you on the spot for what you are saying. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between someone being rude and someone who is just having fun kidding around with you by just reading what they typed. It's worth putting up with a few morons to be around a bunch of good folks.....................................DJ Remember this is all supposed to be for fun.......................

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. djpaintless #3664000 01/10/10
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,472 Where the wild things are. Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter
Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,472 Where the wild things are.	Originally Posted by djpaintless It's a whole lot easier being rude to people who you are not right in front of and won't deck you on the spot for what you are saying. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between someone being rude and someone who is just having fun kidding around with you by just reading what they typed. It's worth putting up with a few morons to be around a bunch of good folks.....................................DJ Yup. And loud obnoxious people that are always looking for a fight seem to be popular. I learnt it here alright, but can't like it much. Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box. Italian Proverb

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Bulletbutt #3665056 01/10/10
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter
Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana	Originally Posted by Bulletbutt The new BUTT-OUT II TOOL has a stop on the handle to keep your hand from sliding... Best one on here so far! TFF “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Kimber7man #3668964 01/11/10
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 352 HankMcMauser Campfire Member
HankMcMauser Campfire Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 352	blue tape works.... money spent on decent binoculars is money well spent... cup & core bullets at standard velocities works, & works well.... savage rifles are good... savage rifles are ugly....(I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder) never trust a man who only owns one rifle...he obviously has his priorities all screwed up this place gets really goofy after the big game seasons are mostly wrapped up.... Last edited by HankMcMauser; 01/12/10. Reason: forgot one Roughly half the people you meet are below average intelligence.

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. HankMcMauser #3669156 01/12/10
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,308 Mobile J jimmyp Campfire Ranger
jimmyp Campfire Ranger J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,308 Mobile	Kimber Montana's in 308 is only 84M they can make right Kimber Montana's in .223 is the best 84M .257 Roberts is better than a .243 winchester 30-06 is good for everything 30-06 is overkill for everything .270 Winchester is better than the 30-06 .270 Winchester will not work for mule deer or Texas deer .223 anything is a great deer cartridge .223 anything sucks for deer Kimber rifles suck Kimber rifles are great Leica is hands down the best binocular Zeiss is hands down the best binocular Nosler partitions suck Nosler partitions are the best Barnes TSX suck Barnes TSX are the best Leupold has gone to hxll in a hand basket Leupold is the best rifle scope for the money on the market did I forget anything?

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Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. jimmyp #3669238 01/12/10
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5,739 (513) F Folically_Challenged Campfire Tracker
Folically_Challenged Campfire Tracker F Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5,739 (513)	The desire to regularly shoot magnum cartridges is inversely proportional to one's age. If a scope mfgr has scopes in 1.5-4x, 1.5-5x, 1.75-6x, and 2.5-8x, they still have a gaping hole in their low-power product line. It's crucial for a scope mfgr to have at least 4 models of the exact same scope, tweaked minimally so as to be priced at 4 separate price points. High velocity kills. Big & slow kills. More big game is shot at > 400 yards than < 100 yards. Wood stocks swell & lose POI. Wood stocks don't swell, nor lose POI. Fixed power scopes don't work. "Every day is a holiday, and every meal is a banquet." - Mrs. FC

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Folically_Challenged #3671009 01/12/10
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,085 Oregon KCBighorn Campfire Regular
KCBighorn Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,085 Oregon	A 375 H&H is a sensible choice for a 100 pound African impala on a game farm. A 223 is more than enough for a 100 pound deer. A leupold 6 x 42 is the best scope. Period. A leupold 6 x 36 is crap. Period.

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. HankMcMauser #3671102 01/12/10
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,749 Frisco, TEXAS djpaintless Campfire Tracker
djpaintless Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,749 Frisco, TEXAS	Originally Posted by HankMcMauser never trust a man who only owns one rifle...he obviously has his priorities all screwed up I like this one.......................DJ Remember this is all supposed to be for fun.......................

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. djpaintless #3671149 01/12/10
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,643 Occupied California kevinh1157 Campfire Regular
kevinh1157 Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,643 Occupied California	There are no cougars in Oklahoma Cougars are over running the State of Oklahoma A 223 is fine for whitetail A 243 is barely adequate for pronghorn TSX bullets kill like a lighting bolt Most TSX bullets are catastrophic failures Last edited by kevinh1157; 01/12/10. Kevin Haile

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. kevinh1157 #3671574 01/12/10
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,522 north idaho N nimrod1949 Campfire Tracker
nimrod1949 Campfire Tracker N Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,522 north idaho	don't buy off other forum's classifieds!

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. nimrod1949 #3672144 01/12/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,845 Big Sky Country TheBigSky Campfire Outfitter
TheBigSky Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,845 Big Sky Country	If you take a liberal from Oregon who doesn't know when to quit and mix him with a self-absorbed a-hole from Alaska who thinks he knows ten times as much as he actually does, you get pages and pages of worthless blather. Oh yeah, then morons like me are too dumb not to rubberneck the trainwreck of the aforementioned pages of blather. Last edited by TheBigSky; 01/12/10. Reason: Corrected a spelling error. _________________________________________________________________________ “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. TheBigSky #3672272 01/13/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,787 Ready Campfire Tracker
Ready Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,787	I learned not to cope - if your equipment (rifle, cartridge, bullet, optics / sights) is not perfect for the instance, you do not have a shot. There is no difference between a .260 Rem. and a .30-06. There is, however, a difference between a .7mm-08 and a .308 If you like C&C you have to hate premiums with a passion, especially monometals. If you prefer monometals, you wonder how anything ever got killed before their time and are vocal about it. Only the other type of bullets fail - even if recovered from a dead animal. Member of the Merry Band of turdlike People.

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Ready #3672392 01/13/10
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana
BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	No one can hit running game effectively,...cause I can't.... If your rifle does not shoot 1/4" groups,it cannot be used to shoot through holes in brush.... If your rifle is zeroed 3" high at 100 yards,you cannot shoot through holes in brush.....you will miss at 50 yards.... If you cannot hold 1/2 MOA off hand,you cannot shoot through holes in brush..... The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. BobinNH #3672884 01/13/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,787 Ready Campfire Tracker
Ready Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,787	You need turrets to shoot through holes in brush... Member of the Merry Band of turdlike People.

Re: Things we've learned here at the fire. Ready #3672915 01/13/10
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,472 Where the wild things are. Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter
Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,472 Where the wild things are.	A fixed 6x is way better than a 2.5-8x despite the fact that you can put the variable on 6x. The variable will break at some point, but the fixed 6x will last forever. Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box. Italian Proverb

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