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I say again to the thread.. Good Night! Ingwe
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After sticking my neck out on ballistic issues, I've sort of let the details just flow over me (particularly since some folks' argument is against conservation of momentum--sort of like claiming a perpetual motion machine). I'll just take them at their word. Otherwise it would kill the hell out of my fun on this forum and comments by guys like ingwe and steelie. . .
This gun is really curious to me. The action for all the world looks like a magnum length action. I haven't decoupled the long throat from bedding issues. But, I plan on giving it a try.
As for break-in procedure. I shoot what I feel like and clean thereafter. I'm pretty sure this is what you've preached and I think you are precisely correct. I do have an interesting cleaning procedure if you're interested. I'd post it if other folks are would think it helpful. But, since I'm so new here, I figure its been published before. I will tell you that it gets both throat and bore clean.
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Remington LONG actions are just that, LONG.
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I once had a Remington .338 UM and I figure this is the same action length. I don't get it, though. I have an OLD Remington 700 in .270, and, while I haven't measured it, it doesnt' seem anywhere close to this length. I think I'll measure it and see if there is a difference.
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While we are on the subject, I'm really wanting a 17 Fireball, though a 17/222 would make more sense since I have 600 virgin 222 cases. Grapes or virgins. . .
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Huntaria: Your Dad is a smart guy!I'd just turn him loose!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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As for break-in procedure. I shoot what I feel like and clean thereafter. I'm pretty sure this is what you've preached and I think you are precisely correct.
Yep. Thats the aforementioned " Constable Tom Break In Procedure".... And Bob is right about your dad... That kinda guy is usually smarter than those of us who pay attention to minutae..... Ingwe
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Lots of folks over complicate stuff. There was a period of time I weighed each charge, trickled, measure group size yada yada.
Now I just dump powder and shoot. I have more than a few rifles that I can't even know how far from the lands the bullets are. I HATE shooting from a bench and punching paper is blah.
I just don't care about groups any longer, consistency is king. I just want to kill [bleep] with them.
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Funny you mention that, cause that's the way I am with lever actions. I went (well, still am, sorta) on a lever action binge a few years ago. If I could hit a 6" plate every time with open sights at 100 yards, I was happy and the gun stayed. I didn't toy with powder charges (or powder types) too much. Other than my .348, I stick with either RL 15, RL 7 and H110 and some mid to upper weight bullet. In good weather, I have what I like to call "Lever Action Sunday", where I carry all of 'em out the back porch and shoot until I get tired.
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Love it when people measure groups to the nearest 0.0001 inch!!
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Gotta admit Im a little bit country and a little bit rock-n-roll on this one..I work up my load( no measuring run-out etc, just powder charge and O.A.L.) then go shooting.... If a big game rifle is keeping them on the six inch gong at our 300 yd. range...I'm good to go... Buttt...when its time to load that one box of ammo thats going hunting, I do everything I can to eliminate variables, so if I miss, I know whose fault it is right away! Ingwe
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Buttt...when its time to load that one box of ammo thats going hunting, I do everything I can to eliminate variables, so if I miss, I know whose fault it is right away! Ingwe I know what you mean. I'll be pretty anal about the ammo we take and for much the same reason.
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I just grab a few rounds out of the ammo box and head out...
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Huntaria: Your Dad is a smart guy!I'd just turn him loose! When I showed him that first group, he said "Well, that's pretty close." Then proceeded to hit what he was aiming at. I'm sort of envious of that attitude.
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Awesome! If for nothing else, gotta love the looks of the XLC's.
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I just grab a few rounds out of the ammo box and head out... Is the rock in that box for when you really want to go "old School"?? Ingwe
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A piece of Iron Pyrite, I'm prone to pickup pieces of whenever found.
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You mentioned the Constable Tom procedure. The "gunsmith" that built my .338-06 (the only positive thing I can say about this guy is that he screwed the barrel on straight--I think) went into this long harangue on how to break the barrel in. One of the MANY things he said to do was "dip the tip of the bullet in Kroil."
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My wife does that with stream rocks....
Did you ever really have any luck with XLCs??
I did better with the rocks...group wise....
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