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I have both. In KS we have deer and coyotes, with a chance to maybe go elk hunting. I lean to the .270 because it was recommended by Jack O'Conner in the 60's for these species. If I lived in deer/bear/moose areas, I would lean to the .30-06. FWIW, I use a .308 for deer now, because the Sav 99 doesn't have a long action. Life is good.

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Originally Posted by tx270
I'm not doubting your experiences joe, but I think it comes down more to you've been real lucky with the 06' and unlucky with the .270, I don't think it has anything to do with the actual effectiveness of either round. Though I can see how it would seem that way to you.

I own both and have taken deer with both, about 50 with the 270 in fact.

For deer I'll take the .270 any day, but its personal preference not because I think its better than the 06'.

Which round caused the longest run from a boiler room hit for me? An undisturbed WT buck I shot at about 150 yds with my 300 win mag and a fast expanding bullet, buck ran like hell for a long ways with an exit wound the size of my fist, lungs were absolute jelly. No reason he should have run that far.

Sometimes things just happen....

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And that was exactly my point. I emphasized that it was a relatively small sample size because I KNOW that there should be no real difference.

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Having shot both myself, which would you rather have in your hands in camp if you get a problem bear? A 270 loaded with your favorite 130 gr deer bullet, or a 30-06 loaded with your favorite 150 grain, 165 grain, or heavier bullet? I'll pick the 06 in that situation over the 270 win, and I shot the 270 win for over 25 years.

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depends on the bullet. I'd rather have a 130gr Partition (or Accubond, etc) in my 270 than a 150gr GameKing in my 30/06.

But then there ain't too many bears where I hunt, anyway! grin

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Bears die fast when hit with a 270-130 smile




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by AggieDog
Having shot both myself, which would you rather have in your hands in camp if you get a problem bear? A 270 loaded with your favorite 130 gr deer bullet, or a 30-06 loaded with your favorite 150 grain, 165 grain, or heavier bullet? I'll pick the 06 in that situation over the 270 win, and I shot the 270 win for over 25 years.


If was deer hunting I'd have a 150 gr deer bullet in the 06' anyway, no bigger. So that really is kind of a moot point.

If you mean black bear, then I'm just as confident in my 270 as my 06'.

BTW this thread was started as which for deer, not problem bears......

If this topic was about problem bears, then I'd have said.......neither.

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Bears die fast when hit with a 270-130 smile


No doubt... Dober took his best one ( 7'3" IIRC) with a .22-250 and a 63 gr. Sierra.....they are not as tough as legend would have it..

7x57 kills them deadest of all......... whistle


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Maybe deer are developing generational immunities to damage done by 270 bullets, you know like bugs do with poisons.

They may need to be frightened to death by a 300 mag.

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My 444 Outfitter is the "Hammer of Thor", and my .45-70 Guide Gun is the "SledgeHammer of Thor"!!! There! You happy now, bro' Jimmy?!! :-)


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Originally Posted by DELGUE
My 444 Outfitter is the "Hammer of Thor", and my .45-70 Guide Gun is the "SledgeHammer of Thor"!!! There! You happy now, bro' Jimmy?!! :-)


piker, where is your .358 STA in all of this! whistle


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Originally Posted by ingwe


7x57 kills them deadest of all......... whistle


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Yes!....the 7x57 elevates performance to the second level of "dead". grin




The 280 Remington is overbore.

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Originally Posted by StrayDog
Maybe deer are developing generational immunities to damage done by 270 bullets, you know like bugs do with poisons.


Stray Dog: Yes! Another example of Darwinian Evolution....it comes about because 270's have been in use since 1925 now;resistance to the terminal effect of 270 bullets is now almost complete in many species of BG animals,worldwide, but most predominantly recognized in smaller Texas deer........I'm serious about this......there have been studies shocked

There is hope however....the studies indicate that,by increasing bullet diameter by .007.....and decreasing powder capacity to 308-levels,terminal effect is greatly increased; and research is under way to blow out the parent 270 case to less taper,increase bullet diameter,once again,by .007"...and terminal effect is completely restored.....

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by ingwe


7x57 kills them deadest of all......... whistle


Ingwe


Yes!....the 7x57 elevates performance to the second level of "dead". grin


I knew I liked these two for a reason!
Because I heard our Michigan Deer were getting kevlar from there western cousins...I used a .350 Rem last fall on one. I named it Zues' Balls because all the hammers were taken.....


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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
I once tested these two cartridges side by side while culling and it was my impression and opinion formed that the .30/06 hit harder, there was no tracking and a much norticeable and reduced requirement for finishing shots.



Very interesting. What sized animals?


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by StrayDog
Maybe deer are developing generational immunities to damage done by 270 bullets, you know like bugs do with poisons.


Stray Dog: Yes! Another example of Darwinian Evolution....it comes about because 270's have been in use since 1925 now;resistance to the terminal effect of 270 bullets is now almost complete in many species of BG animals,worldwide, but most predominantly recognized in smaller Texas deer........I'm serious about this......there have been studies shocked

There is hope however....the studies indicate that,by increasing bullet diameter by .007.....and decreasing powder capacity to 308-levels,terminal effect is greatly increased; and research is under way to blow out the parent 270 case to less taper,increase bullet diameter,once again,by .007"...and terminal effect is completely restored.....
yes I have seen 150 grain bullets from the 308 Winchester bounce off the sides of WT does at 25 yards. We pick them up and reload them again as the tips are undamaged due to the deers soft fur.


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Hoo-wee, gotta put on my muck boots for this one! I have shoot both and have taken nearly 25 deer with a .270 with the 130 grain SP's. Only ever recoved one bullet from all those deer - in & out. Shot my very first deer this year with a 30-06 with 150 grain Hornady SP. In and out too, but on the way out, it drug a big old piece of fat about half way our the exit wound. The .270 is a favorite of mine, but I like the 06 too.

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like many, i've owned and hunted with both for around 35+ years. no real difference to me except on elk, so i have been using the 06' on those annual hunts. but for deer, imo, what one does the other will do equally well. ymmv.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
7x57 kills them deadest of all......... whistle

Amen brother. Preach it!

Most seriously DRT, in their tracks, before they hit the ground, didn't know they were, DEAD!

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I have had both for many years and to tell the truth I cant see a dimes worth of difference between the to. Both are great caliburs imo. I use the 06 more because my son uses my 270 now.

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