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Which would be better for deer? Can I expect a complete pass through with the Norma? What about Texas Heart shots, which is better for these?

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A 50 BMG would be better for those reeeeel tough deer in Georgia...............LOL!


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The Norma usually exits on brown bears and moose! Load it down to 2100 fps with 225 sierra's for deer.(or less)


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.358-378


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jimmyp; Shoot a deer through the shoulders or with a Texas heart shot with a 358NM and post the results. I'd like to see that... I'd like to know if you'd still want to deer hunt with it.


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Are you declaring war on whitetails? shocked
There is no "better" in the equation with either.
Each will flat out turn a deer inside out - if you're into that sort of thing.


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I think the OP is pulling our chains

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
I think the OP is pulling our chains


Ha! I suspect you are correct...LOL! grin





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Both seem pretty marginal to me, better step up a notch.

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skane,

what do you mean turn a deer inside out? those two calibers are near the vaunted 375 H&H in terms of power. plenty of deer are shot with that one and with proper shot placement none are turned inside out. in fact, you could turn a deer inside out pretty easily by gut shooting one with a really high velocity round like one of the Weatherby offerings with a fragile bullet at close-to-the-muzzle range.

with the right bullet and proper shot placement i suspect you will find what other hunters find: two holes and a vary dead deer. end of story.

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He wasn't talking about proper shot placement, he was talking about Texas heart shots; thus the implication of humor being involved.
I still want to see pictures before I make a choice.


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what grain bullet is best for the Texas Heart Shot when using the .358 STA? whistle

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now dont i feel stupid.

i should have read the post closer. sorry guys!

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As long as you are serious about this <grin>....a 225 gr Barnes TSX ought to go through a deer from any angle with as little damage as possible with either chambering. Not saying you won't damage some meat and make a mess though.

I also would like to see any pics of a deer shot from stem to stern with either package.

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I think we would be talking about a 35 caliber 225TSX at about 3000FPS? I have to say if you could get that together with a 7.5 pound full up rifle with a 22 inch barrel, you would have something that would make things on both ends take notice. I think a 4X scope would be about right on this....

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I'd shorten that barrel to 20" max and try to get the over all weight down to something like 6.50-7#.

Brush gun. The bullet weight is fine but I would want to run at least 250g.


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I see you can get 2400FPS from a 310, probably good medicine should you have to shoot through a small pine tree to reach the vitals. smile

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My current brush gun is a heavily modified pre-64 Winchester 94 chambered in 8mm Remington Magnum running 200g Partitions. Optics are an 8x56 S&B with a Swaro rail mount. All up she goes 6.5# on the nose. Camo paint, kelvar stock.

If I had it to do all over again I would definitely go to the 358 for the increased frontal diameter for more DRT action. The 310g @2400fps sounds like good advice.

May have to sell this one...


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yes the 8mm might be a bit light for 160 pound WT deer. I mean a 200 is just 70 grains more than a 130.

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Originally Posted by JS_LaCourse
skane,
with the right bullet and proper shot placement i suspect you will find what other hunters find: two holes and a vary dead deer. end of story.



Taint had a problem in not getting pass-through's with a 280. wink laugh


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