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RWE;

Leave it be.

It is what it is.




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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
The blindness here as to what it means to live in a free society is appalling.

Freedom and liberty have much more to fear from many on this thread than from some hippie somewhere. Jesus Christ. You guys make a mockery of the concept.

Out.


How can you guy's prticipate in a give and take with such an off the wall dumbphuck like this Jeff_O (short for Obama) azz clown?

Just like that Maser guy and some others here, can't you see that this slimeball simply revels in the attention he is getting?

This eremitic little Obama voting prick probably lives a cloistered existence in the woods somewhere and the only opportunity he gets to talk to real men is on a forum like this....... where his true persona is protected by the annonimity of the internet.

You can play all the word games you want with this piece of schit, but just remember, the blame for EVERYTHING that happens to you and your family as a result of the DEVIL that is now residing in the White House can be placed directly at his doorstep................. no matter how much he blathers to the contrary.


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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
RWE;

Leave it be.

It is what it is.


you're right.

I'm done with stupid politics.....

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Ok, sorry to plagiarize


I speak not only of my own inference, nor do I flaunt my singular opinion for opinion's sake, but rather draw from the vast sentiment of my fellow Freedom Loving Americans.

It remains doubtful Obama voter, and those who over the years helped build the thrown of tyranny, that a great many of you will understand these words, but then again, there is always Hope...isn't there.

That you, and those before you cannot see the forest for the trees is your greatest downfall. The irresponsible use of your vote in November of 2008, built upon past votes, has returned us as a Nation to 1773, and to 1859. The culmination of your blatant disregard for the Freedom of your Countrymen is the sole reason we now suffer your Manchurian Muslim and his socialist aspirations.

Your choice of leadership has been a grave mistake. The same mistake you have made several times in the past. It is another that threatens the very core of our Constitution, our God given liberties, our America.

You, Obama voter, have facilitated the enemy of Liberty thereby rendering yourself the enemy of Freedom....this is your cross to bear, comrade. A cross you and those before you built, over the years.

You have made the conscious decision to become the threat to Our Freedom, plain and simple.

This is your cross to bear, comrade...and Our ax to grind.

The Hope that you thought to be so worthy of your vote would now be best used towards a peaceful outcome to future conflict between us...though I fear you have awakened a sleeping, and unforgiving, giant from the depths of American History.

We know that a great many of you have seen the error of your decision. We have seen you move to rectify that error. That move to rectify must not be made from the same greed, envy and self indulgence as the decision you made, for that will fate you to make another like it when you believe it suits you. That rectification can only be because you dug deep into your heart and found what being an American is, what liberty is, and what defines a free man.

We can forgive you your error, your slap in the face of liberty, your assault on the heart of America, but never confuse that with forgetting, nor restoration of trust. Our eye lays upon you, in a cold steely stare, never again try to come up behind us, that do not dare.

We will work to repair this ship we call America, to again bring her afloat, using all the peaceful means we can, but when the water of oppression washes over the gunnels we will only then really begin our fight. We pray it never comes to war, but we cannot allow America to fall with a whimper, but only with a bang and a fight, lest we have to do what we dread the most, hang our heads in shame.

Never sleep too soundly, nor go into the night, lest you feel our blade against your throat, we will avenge our lost rights. We will revive the Tree of Liberty by spilling on it your blood. And if we should loose in the end, we will look down from heaven and say to our forefathers, "There we proudly stood."

Being victorious we will hold high those among us who fell in the fight, for they are glory bound, having died for God given rights. They will stand in honor beside our fathers, the second time, agaist a tyrant, America stood it's ground.

Do, now, pray to whatever heathen god you aspire for that none of us ever meet you on the battlefield. You are not one of us, nor will you ever be, for you are the enemy. And we pledge to destroy you, or die in the attempt.

No quarter given, and none taken.

In honor of the great Patrick Henry 235 years ago today, give me Liberty, or by God as my witness, give me death...........

And in the words of Thomas Jefferson:

With reasonable men I will reason, with humane men I will plead, with tyrants I will show no mercy.

And that goes for the well of people the tyrant draws his power from also.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Seafire,

You said you would shoot down nonviolent US Citizens over politics and lifestyle, gleefully, if only given the chance.

That's [bleep] up.

You don't believe in freedom, not any freedom worth the name.







your hook is not real hard to bait, is it?


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Some of us have already responded to the call of arms in our youth, what makes anyone think that as our time grows shorter we would have less conviction. Our fathers shaped who we are,and as I was brought up, pray for peace, prepare for hell Russ


And as we grow older we find we have less and less to lose and closer than ever to acting on our convictions.


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Originally Posted by HawkI
I'd hate to see his "Conservative" poll numbers....


Ain't that the truth!

How any *law abiding* gun owner can still support Obama and the dems. is frankly, beyond me.
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Come on Jeff, just admit you were and idiot and voted for the annointed one.




Will anyone admit they were an idiot for voting for Bush Jr?


I doubt it. It's ok if Bush gave us a $700 Billion gorilla health care plan that rivals Obama's or that our National Debt doubled under his watch or that we had the largest expansion of Federal govt since FDR while he was president.


But as soon as a Dem does the same thing,...well NOW we're going to express our outrage.

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.



If Republicans spent more time righting their own ship rather than pissing and moaning about what the libs are doing, it's doubtful the libs would ever be in a position of power. What we've become is a country that votes against the other side and I think we've all seen that ain't getting us nowhere.




Typical answer from you trips. I said nothing about Bush. I never claimed he was the best at anything. The thread is about health care and how the dems went against the vast majority of Americans, and voted it in anyway. They do not represent us, and haven't for a very long time. You want to talk about it's Bush's fault, fine do it in another thread. It has no bearing on what happended last Sunday. All of the [bleep] need to be replaced and term limits installed. Now try to remain on target with what's happening. At some point in time, and it is coming, people are going to rise up and demand to be heard and listened to. I don't want to see bloodshed anymore than you do. However, if things don't change drastically in Nov., and more socialist laws are passed, there will be an uprising.


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I dont know why, but its still a shock every time J_O opens that liberal mind and gives us a peek. FUBAR

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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
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All this may be true, but it doesn't change the fact that many WWII vets alive today STILL vote democrat, hence my original point, to do so does not make one un-American..


No. It makes them blinded.


I can agree with that.







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I wish someday I have the apathy and pure stupidity to decide to sit complacently between elections and let politicians do whatever they want simply because that's the way the vote turned out.


No way pal. Not sure if I am included in that, but nobody suggested sitting complacently idle, you are stretching. The argument here is the threat of violence and death against other Americans because the country's politics are not going our way .

There are many avenues not yet traveled, talk of civil war is jumping the gun. Sitting behind one's computer advocating civil war instead of writing politicians and news papers is in itself lazy.







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Originally Posted by rosco1
I dont know why, but its still a shock every time J_O opens that liberal mind and gives us a peek. FUBAR


Well that is a pretty simple analogy...

His thoughts are not pro Democrat... they are just FUBAR...

FUBAR and Democrat ideology are pretty much the same thing anymore..


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Originally Posted by Barkoff
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I wish someday I have the apathy and pure stupidity to decide to sit complacently between elections and let politicians do whatever they want simply because that's the way the vote turned out.


No way pal. Not sure if I am included in that, but nobody suggested sitting complacently idle, you are stretching. The argument here is the threat of violence and death against other Americans because the country's politics are not going our way .

There are many avenues not yet traveled, talk of civil war is jumping the gun. Sitting behind one's computer advocating civil war instead of writing politicians and news papers is in itself lazy.


Easy, I wasn't referring to you.

Your sounding quite defensive though. uncalled for

And I am not stretching .

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Originally Posted by RWE
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I wish someday I have the apathy and pure stupidity to decide to sit complacently between elections and let politicians do whatever they want simply because that's the way the vote turned out.


No way pal. Not sure if I am included in that, but nobody suggested sitting complacently idle, you are stretching. The argument here is the threat of violence and death against other Americans because the country's politics are not going our way .

There are many avenues not yet traveled, talk of civil war is jumping the gun. Sitting behind one's computer advocating civil war instead of writing politicians and news papers is in itself lazy.


Easy, I wasn't referring to you.

Your sounding quite defensive though.


With all due respect, you have made a correlation with those who disagree with the threat of civil war and complacency sitting idle. I don't agree the two are related at this point.

I never pound my chest much, but I tell you what; if things were to get much worse, and then a state refused federal laws they don't agree with, then the feds sent the military to enforce said laws and shooting started? I would pick up an arm, but things are far from that point.

I think we should save this thread for NOV, at that point the thread will seem silly at best, however if the democrats win big then I think this thread has a place in the discussion.







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Originally Posted by Barkoff

With all due respect, you have made a correlation with those who disagree with the threat of civil war and complacency sitting idle. I don't agree the two are related at this point.

A while back some idiot on this thread said that because of the vote the Dems had the chance to strut their stuff, like the repubs before that.

that idiot basically alludes to being "flippant" towards the strutting because that's the way the "people" voted.

Like the "vote" is the end of our civic responsibility.

Now, rockford, I never made the correlation to the [bleep] you are talking about.

In fact, if you put 1 and 1 together to get 2, and perhaps read some of my other less notable ramblings, I am 100% into calling my reps every fuggin day chance I can get.

Been doing it since Ron was President.

Please continue to disagree with civil war. I for one have no problem with those that do advocate it, knowing full well that some may not know what they hope for, and some others know too well what's at stake.

And I will join in if I have satisfied myself that I've no other options.

Ultimately, I will do what I can just to be "left alone".

Ironic, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
The blindness here as to what it means to live in a free society is appalling.

Freedom and liberty have much more to fear from many on this thread than from some hippie somewhere. Jesus Christ. You guys make a mockery of the concept.

Out.
I don't usually get involved in these pissing matches but I have to ask you one question and you don't need to go into some long diatribe why, just a simple yes or no would suffice.


Did you really believe that Obama was the best choice for POTUS?


That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.

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Real question is can you admit you [bleep] up or still think you voted for the right person?
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Originally Posted by ColeYounger
Originally Posted by rath
As an outsider (Australian) this thread has been rather fascinating. It's been a valuable insight into the psyche of parts of America. I read today that

"In particular, 67 per cent of Republicans believe Mr Obama is a socialist, 57 per cent believe he is a Muslim, 38 per cent say he �is doing many of the things that Hitler did�, and 24 per cent say �he may be the Antichrist�.

Would people here agree with these numbers?

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Those numbers would be very, very conservative in my area of the country.


It sounds like maybe some folks misunderstood me. What I'm saying is that if the poll was done strictly around here, I think those numbers would be more like 80% believe he's a socialist and about the same number believe he's a Muslim. I'd add that probably 70% believe he doesn't meet the Constitutional criteria to even be President.

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Originally Posted by ColeYounger
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Seafire,

You said you would shoot down nonviolent US Citizens over politics and lifestyle, gleefully, if only given the chance.

That's [bleep] up.

You don't believe in freedom, not any freedom worth the name.







Just finished reading this over breakfast. Jeff you ain't right in the head. I didn't see anywhere where anybody talked of shooting down innocents. Seriously dude, you sound as hysterical as some chick. You might want to check into getting some testosterone shots to boost your levels. You don't want tetas grandes.


This "I'm your accuser", ....finger pointing, LYING on his part is a dangerous game to be playing, in a time when feelings run high. He just MIGHT get someone in trouble,....., if you follow my drift. Requesting that he specifically quote text supporting his allegations seems to be futile......he's ignored that several toimes now, in this one thread.

He does indeed call to mind a little girl standing on a chair, screaming her fool head off, and peeing down her leg, after seeing a mouse,........totally hysterical.

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Originally Posted by ColeYounger
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Seafire,

You said you would shoot down nonviolent US Citizens over politics and lifestyle, gleefully, if only given the chance.

That's [bleep] up.

You don't believe in freedom, not any freedom worth the name.







Just finished reading this over breakfast. Jeff you ain't right in the head. I didn't see anywhere where anybody talked of shooting down innocents. Seriously dude, you sound as hysterical as some chick. You might want to check into getting some testosterone shots to boost your levels. You don't want tetas grandes.


ColeYounger,

Work on your reading comprehension. My synopsis of what he said is correct. Take away the law preventing him, and he'd shoot them down in cold blood.

And that's [bleep] up.

Originally Posted by Seafire

Sad fact is, the radical left ALL have big mouths and claim to represent more of the country than they actually do.

you can credit them to being politically well organized, and definitely controlling most of academia in this country...

but when push comes to shove they will find themselves being dramatically outnumbered...

and when running their big mouths, they should remember: they are anti gun, and they are anti violence...

on the other hand, we as their opponents are heavily PRO gun, and we are NOT anti violent, when our nation is pissed on enough by their types...

personally I look no difference upon a big blood stain on the ground between the remains of a ponytail and a pair of Birkenstocks, than I look at a big blood stain between the remains of a prairie dogs head and the remains of a pair of prairie dog feet...

I look at both as varmints and pests..

there is a law against me shooting one, and there isn't a law against me shooting the other....

and if there is a revolution in this nation, then all of a sudden there is no law enforceable shooting either pest..

Anything that undermines my nation is a varmint, and deserves to be treated as such... that is the way I see it..


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