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Don't wait this long to fix your own chit you will be sleeping outside if you do.

Liar.

On a similar note:

Republicans (ie., conservatives) were in power for 6 years, abortion still legal.

Republicans (ie., conservatives) were in power for 6 years, 2003 drug bill forcing everyone to pay for someone else's drugs, not to mention all of the support on threads here from self-professed conservatives. for mandatory vehicle insurance.

There is a thread here where conservatives here were worried that home schooled kids (whose parents are often opposed to having homosexuality and other things rammed down their kids throats) were so worried that kids that were homeschooled wouldn't be socialized properly.


Republicans (ie., conservatives) were in power for 6 years, we have the 2003 drug bill, 2005 ban on imported rifle parts, and so on.

Great post Dave. My feelings exactly.

How is what the Dems are doing now any different than what we had when the GOP had the reigns?

Was Bush's $700 Billion Federal Health Care expansion that much different than what we're getting now? Are we increasing spending at the same clip as under Bush? Are politicians still stealing from us blind like they were before?


I'll gladly look at numbers if someone wants to post them but from what I've seen, it just more of the same.

The whole thing just seems pretty disingenuous if you ask me. The idea that a good part of America, who just happen to be Republicans, finally had an epiphany that more govt and more spending is 'finally' bad smells of partisanship but hey, you never know.

Looked like during the 2006 time period (as with the time period before and after) that the government wasn't protecting the border and the military was being used for purposes (foreign entanglements) that the founders indicated would destroy the country.

Jason,
Yeah, there is plenty of big government interference in our lives, from R as well as D, I will agree.
However, that doesn't make what is happening under Obama's watch OK, in my opinion.
I for one don't buy into the 'well so in so did this so such and such can do that' routine-it is time to put a stop to such things.

They had the same epiphany back in the 1990's. I think it did take a bit longer for them to get to this point back then as many are already starting to sound like libertarians (as opposed to hitting that mark around 1995-1996) so I figure if Obama gets elected again by about mid-2013 most of them will make Barak sound like the world's biggest statist. Of course, the instant they are successful (as happened in 2000) gun control will be fine, health care schemes will be fine, and so on once again.

Exactly!
And the libs would have you believe they are for 'love and peace.'
What a crock of chit.

So that makes it ok then?? Tit for tat? It's time to put a stop to it but when are we suppose to do it?? When the GOP takes office, then you can get all riled up and cry foul?? It needs to stop and it needs to stop now, before it's too late. Big govt is going destroy this country.

Agreed but some are placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of those who voted for Obama while conveniently neglecting what happened to our country while under the control of the man they elected, Bush.


It's pure partisan horseschitt.

I agree with you on the money except Bush's wrong deal doesn't have an individual being required to purchase health care. Neither side has or will protect the border until something horrific occurs like a major terrorist attack where the terrorist came in across the southern border.

I never said either version of interference was ok. However you will find a large number of conservative republicans who will bitch about any given thing democrats do while supporting republicans engaged in the same activity. Did you hear many republicans pissed off over the 2003 drug bill like how they are now? Do you know many republicans that are pissed off over the Bush 89 semi-auto ban or the 2005 parts kit ban like they were over the 2004 Clinton semi-auto ban between the dates of Oct. 1994 & January 2001?

Trying to point out(and doing a piss poor job) that the anger needs to be directed at our govt., not the voters, unless both sides are willing to share the blame for what transpired under their respective administrations.

I agree with you, rrroae.
Looking back on things, our country has been going downhill for years-I for one would like to see EVERY politician in DC booted out of office and term limits put into place for every congress critter.

So how are you getting around being required to pay for someone else's health care with Bush's bad deal?

Casey says it pretty well. The R's favor economic rights but go after personal rights. The D's favor personal rights and go after economic rights.

In my opinion, and there's HUGE common ground with virtually everyone here I suspect, the government is way too big, and way too involved in legislating our lives.

But that's BOTH parties.

I refuse to bow down to the idea that R's are all about freedom. They are not. In general, the conservative side hammers the 1st and 4th; Bush certainly did.

I'm all for Dave's small government (minus the huge military), but we don't get that with R's any more than D's! We just get a different flavor of big government- one that acts in unconstitutional ways when it comes to personal and religious freedoms, for example... one that wants to militarize everything including outer space. And if you argue against it, you are unpatriotic because hey, it's the military. A sacred cow as it were.

Back to the point here. I'm not going to sit here and let guys rant about how much better things would be if only we took up guns and basically tore down the house. If the thread has moved beyond that, then that represents success. Thhppptt!

In the end, does it really matter?

When the dust settles, you and me are both going to be on the hook for someone who can't pay.

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