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Gonna put me on ignore again...?

Nope, just ignorant.

Uh huh!

We'll see........................

Enjoy your Sunday

Have a good day.

Tom,

I can't speak for Steelhead and he probably isn't going to spell it out.

The issue some have is not with God or faith, but with man's hypocrisy and exclusivity when it comes to practice of religion. Which often times runs counter to what Jesus taught.

JM

My family were congregation builders, we helped with 3 in 10 years from when I was 8 to 18. We would start in school auditoriums and after a couple years buy land and build buildings. Some experiences were uplifting, some not so much.

I was being groomed for the ministry, figured that was my path. I was shown the inner workings of the church and it's politics. You can't imagine the pettiness and control struggles, downright biblical sin from those in good standing behind the scenes. The young ministers would be pushed and pulled by the different fractions, it truly is not a blessed occupation because you have to deal with man.

Lessons I learned, if you listen to 5 different Christians in one congregation, you will swear there are more than one God, each has their own that thinks exactly like them. If a young couple newly come to Christ, all excited and filled with the spirit, proclaiming to all that will listen their rebirth. Finds out the minister they believe is Gods voice to them and their mentor, bonked the choir leader. They will proclaim there is no God, he let them down if there is, and find another softball league to play in. True example I witnessed.

Never put your spiritual faith in any man or organization. Church is fine, but a social club with disagreements and politics of man. The comradeship and support can bolster, the politics and hostility at times can destroy, it's a two edged sword.

Going to church will test a man's faith to the limit.

God obviously has a sense of humor...

Kent

John thats why these people shouldnt look at what "other" people are doing or saying....its between man and God himself....not man and man.

Man will fail at everything he does...he aint a God.

If people can get that through their minds they might actually find something.

Every opinion on this thread is the product on those who have been taught or influenced by man to believe as they do, just as this agnostic is the product of his upbringing and surrounding.

At this point I'm gonna need a tap on the shoulder.

shouldn't you all be in church or something?

Well said.

Now I'm off to shoot my debul gun if my wife will get back with my truck...

Tom,

I agree. Ya'll were saying the same thing, just in different ways.

I'd bet my hat both of you are good men. (My hat is old and cheap, so I if lose, it ain't no big deal).

Bit I won't, because I know I'm right about you both being good folks.

isn't this Church?

Now, concerning the guy above me (byc)...

He is a census debul.

I suppose.

This is all wayyyy too deep for me. Religion kinda gets that way though.

These kind of chats, whether here or a bar...wherever, always end like this..couple guys getting pissed at each other. Part of being humble is realizing we dont know it all.

You know, when me and the ex used to argue, id head to the bar. Blow off to some buddies. It was great. Got alot advice. In the end I had to go home to her and work it out. It'd be best if the OP put out his cigarrete, took one last swig, and went home to work it out. Im sure the Lords waitin.

John I prayed long and hard with Makers in hand about the census and yes de census debul got me. She's in the mail with Makers spilt all over it. Barely legible but I crossed to the other side. Need more Makers now!

These threads can be useful, if you can sift thru and pick out the good stuff.

Depends on how you look at it and what you are looking to get out of it.

Agendas aside.

JM

Who?

It's more like "submit to God", than "believe in God".

Is doing it your way more important than going to heaven? Is anything more important than making it?


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