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I'm not a gun writer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night but I have seen what a 25 caliber can do on an occasion or three. I've yet to have the desire to use 115's and 120's, though I don't doubt they work, albeit with way over penetration.... Just a dink shot with a 25. I can only imagine what a 160gr RN from a Swede would have done. ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Shoalcove/Bear/May25.jpg) Maybe the same thing??? I'm only guessing though...
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is he the guy that said the .270 was way under powered for mule deer?
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Campfire Oracle
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JohnMoses and jimmyp,
Clay Harvey was a gun writer who was publishing quite a bit of stuff in the 1990's. He is no longer in the business, having left suddenly due to serious conflicts he got into with some manufacturers. And no, he wasn't writing trash about their products. It's a pretty well-known story inside the business but not something I would care to share on a public forum.
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John Steinbeck
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now you have got me curious..
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Campfire Oracle
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Gee, I forgot I was so forthcoming on that thread--probably because other people were already piling on old Clay.
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John Steinbeck
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thank you! Clay is a real piece of work!
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At least that's according to 'Overcoming Big Game Color Vision' by Clay Harvey. I don't think I have that book ?
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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I'm not a gun writer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night but I have seen what a 25 caliber can do on an occasion or three. I've yet to have the desire to use 115's and 120's, though I don't doubt they work, albeit with way over penetration.... Just a dink shot with a 25. I can only imagine what a 160gr RN from a Swede would have done. Was waiting for that pic, but couldn't recall what you used. Did you have to shoot it fifteen times due to biting and claws? I always heard that when shooting things that can bite, eat or claw you, you shoot until they stop moving. grin Does Boo Boo trying to eat 6 dozen jelly doughnuts from a barrel and some dude named Clay up in a tree count in the biting, eating clawing category? Load up some 100 TTSX's and some 160 Hornadys and shoot a pile of stuff. Lots of things have happened since 1948. There might even be better sources around here than Clay Harvey.....
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250AI and I'm pretty certain I still had a few rounds left in the magazine, miraculously
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You mean you didn't have to shoot that bear repeatedly because of the little-bitty bullets you used?
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I felt safe, my pard was backing me up with a 223AI
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Nice bear by the way and thanks for the link.
JM
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More stunt shooting with another 25 cal, albeit a bit faster from the Roy. 100gr XLC at 200 yards did the trick, though I was a bit scared. ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Shoalcove/Stuff1/Beartoday.jpg)
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Should add the second biggest bear I've seen killed (that means I was there when the shenanigans occurred) was dropped with a 6mm/284. Seen that rifle kill a few impressive critters.
Might also have seen a few drop with a 243 but I don't want to overload folks.
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I got a get one of those. It shot all the bones out that bear.  We see bears a good bit while deer hunting (at my Fil's camp) but as you know, we can't hunt them in Louisiana yet. They had to relocate 32 of them from the Tensas Wildlife Refuge a couple of years ago. I called the LA. Dept of Wildlife and asked if they were considering limited draws for Bear tags in that part of the state and you would have thought I had asked for a bald eagle hunting permit.... I don't think they have any intentions of reducing over-populated areas by allowing hunters to take a few. I guess they will keep carting them off to other places until they are established everywhere before they will consider allwong a season.
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![[Linked Image]](http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u49/Mark_Dobrenski/Pic9.png) More stunt shooting, 22/250, 63 Sierra, 178 yds and going away. Bullet pretty much went end to end going out his adams apple Dober
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