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Which part did you have difficulty comprehending,Junior? Where Kennedy stated he wasn't suggesting they were filing or the part where he simply wanted to know what the plan was were BP to file the suggestion?

Folks plan for the end of the world everyday too,dude.Some folks even plan for their weekends beforehand. Great find on your part,I guess.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Which part did you have difficulty comprehending,Junior? Where Kennedy stated he wasn't suggesting they were filing or the part where he simply wanted to know what the plan was were BP to file the suggestion?

Folks plan for the end of the world everyday too,dude.Some folks even plan for their weekends beforehand. Great find on your part,I guess.
I didn't have difficulty comprehending any of it, Isaac. I just wanted you to know that if I didn't have any common sense, then neither does Governor Bobby Jindal and State Treasurer John Kennedy. I suspect they see, as I do, the very real possibility of an eventual $100B + cost to BP.

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Highly likely BP will be bought out by one or more of the majors, once they get a handle on the size and disposition of the clean up liabilities. The corporate name is now in the toilet, and the safety/environmental record will make it more difficult for them to get drilling clearances....

They are not yet toast, but they are certainly getting browner.


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Might be a good time to re-evaluate any positions in BP. If we get hit with a good storm, it would seem that would be pretty bearish for BP. I still like the NG plays and they're moving up on the potential storm heading our way.


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Originally Posted by pmeisel
Highly likely BP will be bought out by one or more of the majors, once they get a handle on the size and disposition of the clean up liabilities. The corporate name is now in the toilet, and the safety/environmental record will make it more difficult for them to get drilling clearances....

They are not yet toast, but they are certainly getting browner.


If any part(s) gets "bought out" it would only be parts of their North American assets and you can bet they will dump their dogs, those with low roce. This thing might also affect our North American based majors doing business in other parts of the world should we hammer BP too hard, places like the north sea. Never know. Remember that BP is the major player in the new north slope gas pipeline project. Lots to consider.

It's just friggin sad that Pensacola is looking directly at oil on the way and what is our gov't doing about this?? Can't authorize spraying - now? Can't authorize burning the oil - now? Can't mobilize booms to arrest it - now? Where the h*ll is FEMA?


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BP, just like any other entity, does have finite resources. If the damages reach this limit (whatever it is), they will have to file, probably for Section 11 for reorganization purposes. Any bankruptcy would probably limit their liability and any additional costs would shift to the state and Federal governments.

I do hope they can pay all damages, but bankruptcy is a possibility. A friend (a bankruptcy attorney) once told me that "bankruptcy is just the start of the game. You use it to shield assets, not just to end claims."

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cnbc this a.m.;

9 analyst - Buy

2 analyst - Hold

0 analyst - Sell


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Interesting analysis by guest columnist in WSJ: buy BP.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704025304575285000265955016.html

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The ship BP was using to siphon the oil was struck by lightning and caught fire. Don't now how bad.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
cnbc this a.m.;

9 analyst - Buy

2 analyst - Hold

0 analyst - Sell


How many of those analists predicted TARP?


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Didn't realize that TARP was a stock listed on any U.S. exchange.


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Congrats to those who bought!


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Originally Posted by pmeisel
Highly likely BP will be bought out by one or more of the majors, once they get a handle on the size and disposition of the clean up liabilities. The corporate name is now in the toilet, and the safety/environmental record will make it more difficult for them to get drilling clearances....

They are not yet toast, but they are certainly getting browner.



I'm not a lawyer but I believe a judge or jury might limit cleanup liability due to the fact that the Obama administration, Coast Guard, EPA, et al...have stood in the way of cleanup/capture efforts...
THAT might be the reason Obama has done nothing proactive regarding the spill. How much money did they give him???

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Originally Posted by Junior1942
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Which part did you have difficulty comprehending,Junior? Where Kennedy stated he wasn't suggesting they were filing or the part where he simply wanted to know what the plan was were BP to file the suggestion?

Folks plan for the end of the world everyday too,dude.Some folks even plan for their weekends beforehand. Great find on your part,I guess.
I didn't have difficulty comprehending any of it, Isaac. I just wanted you to know that if I didn't have any common sense, then neither does Governor Bobby Jindal and State Treasurer John Kennedy. I suspect they see, as I do, the very real possibility of an eventual $100B + cost to BP.


I thought this would time to revisit this type of fear mongering. There were several irresponsible people (pundits) that said BP was filing bankruptcy.

Pretty hard to do when you really looked at their net revenues and asset base. Of course, reinstating any form of dividend it EXACTLY opposite of bankruptcy for BP.


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Mine @ 29$/sh is looking ok,,,,,,for a bankrupt Co.


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trading at $47/ share today

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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
after reading these posts a few thoughts:
chicago always knows best: look at what way out of the money call options a couple of years out are going for, someone is betting they are going to be around.
The man in the white house talks out of his azz.
look at who OWNS bp i.e. the various state and public retirement funds as in millions of shares not to mention the british retirement fund which supports a lot of british pensioneers. As to our pension ownership, you force them to cut the dividend and destroy the stock, they you have another contribution to unfunded pension liabilities and another hit where states don't have the money, course i am sure the man's enconomic advisors don't bother about this stuff when he talks out of his azz.
Already today there are news postings about the british prime minister going to talk to "the man" about his mouth. It is high good coverup for the fact "the man" didn't have a clue on how to respond.
Refer back to the exxon valdez spill and the huge penalty they faced at the time. 20 years later it was settled for a fraction of the original amount.
there is no question that bp is going to be paying a lot of money, course they have a lot of money. The msm and the white house propaganda machine are real good at throwing caca on the walls not so good as doing something constructive.
Bp is a a.d.r., it is not quite as easy for "the man" to shake them down as he did the U.S. Chartered banks and auto industry.
On the other hand, sense he likes to give money to the palestinians and cozy up to those interests that hate us, while stiffing israel and Great Britain among our other traditional allies, who knows.
BP is selling below nominal book value although that might not be an indicator given the money outlay coming
Bp is an international concern, even if "the man" was legally able to confiscate their U.S. assets there are plenty more world wide.
You have a shark feeding frenzy on the part of msm, the administration, and shorts.
Having said that, there are still a lot of unknowns out there, that's why the stock is down.

i hit that sucker all the way down to about 29bucks a share. they were right on schedule, meaning a good guess, when they announced ressumption of a dividend a couple of days ago.


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I bought BP, Total, Exxon, Shell and Hess during this little hysteria and all 5 have long since been sold and profits taken. laugh


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