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ward-burton no. 97?

Hint; They are bolt actions and have a external hammer, and one was used in the movie Cross Fire Trail.....(I think..maybe???? Boltman????)

You're on the right trail Gene. Also, the calibers have to be guessed - they are not the same.

Beau Dorn.

One has to be 45-70, the only caliber I remember hearing about, the other might be .43 spanish or I have seen what I thought was a misprint 60-40 (s/b 40-60 maybe??)

Remington-Keene Repeating Rifle, .45-70-405. My next guess before the hint was going to be burton-keene so I was getting close. My keene guess came from this ...

keene pantent

Steve, with the Ross, Remington-keene, and savage 99 all being in the movie Joe Kid makes me wonder if you didnt have a hand in that movie

Gene - you're a real ringer. Yes, one is .45/70. And yes, some were made in .40/60. Not many. But the other one is not a .40/60, it is marked .433 - it is a .43 Spanish. I have fired them both. These are nice big bore repeaters. Lots of firepower and hold plenty of shells.

Here's a couple more pictures:

Well you've met me Gary, so as you know, I'm not no Hollywood actor. And very unlikely to be "discovered" anytime soon . But it is very good to see vintage rifles used in these movies. I was quite impressed with the Ross placement in this movie. Here are a few shots:

Not really, I just accidently stumbled onto this info when trying to find out if any of these were ever made in 22 short! - they weren't, so that's why I don't have one.

gnoahhh I have always heard them referred to as the Amish machine gun, so be it. Cheers NC

Bad, Bad, Boltman just went off topic.
Where are the mods when ya need em

Johno

Johno - I did have my co-conspirators (And I'm sure names were taken). Hey, we'll hit 3000 views by this evening

Keep em coming Steve.

Ok - here's a scenario for you: you are being sent into a very remote wilderness region with minimal supplies. You are by yourself and you have to live off the land. You may be out in the wilderness for many years. You can bring one rifle from your existing collection. It must be a centerfire rifle. The only other caveat is that you can load the rifle but the only ammo you can bring is what fits in the rifle. So, no extra ammo. And, you will not be able to acquire any additional ammo while you out on this long adventure. So - what rifle would you project Boltman would bring? What would you bring? By the way, as this is an O.T. thread, it doesn't have to be a Savage, but it could be.

Evans first model if available, second model if not.

That looks like a second model with the 'sliding' hammer/stricker and not the 'swinging' one? I have a list of patents that I will be adding that would be even better!

A single shot with this stock would work - stock

Any gun that this magazine fits - Magazine

or one this stock could be added to - stock with magazine Now if that double barreled '99' double 99 could be fitted with this stock to feed the rifle side and the other side were .410 fed by the above magazine - you may never have to reload!

or any of these if they ever had been made-
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Gene - I nailed it the other night - you are quite the ringer. You know more about my guns than I do . In fact, when I first posted this little puzzler it ran through my mind to preface it that anyone but Gene can take a crack at it

It will take me a bit to absorb the information you passed on in your above post. Some very provacative ideas and I will enjoy mulling them over. If I do win the powerball, you will be my choice to pick some vintage never built firearms to bring into production. In fact a double barrel Savage that would compete with the firepower of the Evans sounds almost irresistable. Particular if one side fired shotshells and the other rifle shells.

Back to my little puzzler, my logic was to choose the rifle that I could kill the most big game animals with. Pick a Savage and you have about a maximum of six deer. I don't have a first model Evans but if I did that would have been my choice as 34 deer would have been possible. My current Evans could account for 26 deer. One advantage is my Evans is chambered for the .44 Evans Long so certainly a better big game cartridge than the .44 Short. However, in that type scenario with limited cartridges, one would be firing only at close range where a kill shot was very likely. Here are some more pictures:

Steve; If you look real close at your Evans action as it closes and watch how it locks up and then look at a Browning designed Winchester 1887/1901 lever action shotgun you will realize that John Browning did get ideas from other designers, it would seem unlike to me that he would never have seen an Evans.

Gene