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Seems to be the "mass retribution/kill them all/create fear tactic" was tried by a certain very capable military, unconstrained by any moral scruples, both in western Europe, and in Russia and the Ukraine (where the population was initially friendly, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians and partisans... with no success.
Yet we have people on the board advocating a change from a counter-insurgency to a world-wide Crusade... There are Muslims everywhere who either hold neutral views of the US, have positive views of the US, are Allies of the US... and over 3500 serving in the US Armed Forces. There are Muslim cadets at West Point. There are Muslim countries who provide logistical assistance for our war. There is a Muslim opposition in Iran, seeking a secular government. What is possibly gained by pissing in their faces?
Of course, I'm sure many of the same folks who are stomping their feet, saying the pastor has a constitutional right to burn the books (which is correct), probably will say the Muslims should be thrown out of the military, in violation of the constitution.
I don't see where General Petraeus is violating his oath. He's said that burning the Koran is a bad idea. It's a symbolic act by a self-important pastor that will not have any positive effect on the war. It may have negative consequences on the war. Since the General is responsible for the lives of his men and women, I'd respect his input. He's fighting the war he has... not the war the "kill 'em all" folks wish he had. Don't understand why anyone wants to make it any tougher.
If 30 people want to put their religious beliefs into action, in defiance of the best interests of the United States of America and it's armed forces.... they're no better than a Muslim extremist who hasn't bought his box cutter yet. +1 Charlie
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dang chas, another lefty drive by?
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I think that living at 'ground zero', gives me a slight edge on perception of this issue. The Church in question is less than half a mile, as the crow flys.
This whole thing has been vastly blown out of proportion by the media and the administration. They have an agenda, and that agenda is frankly more dangerous than Dove Outreach Church.
I agree. Since WWII the media has always been the fifth column.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous
"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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The Imam's goal is to anger us and thereby create a lot of propaganda. He will use this to motivate the non-radicals of the Moslem world to help his buddies in Hamas, the Taliban and AL Queda.
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The church in question is part of ground zero as it was hit by one of the planes that crashed into the WTC and covered with the ashes of those who died there.
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