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OK boys, after 16 pages, and 46 posts,....HE'S a TROLL!! I've put 2 posts into these 16 pages..... I think in'ts time to return to the sniper thread...the dude's a dickweed....some of you figgered it out earlier....



maddog

Im still not getting this need to prove this insane claim.

I have worked with the bison ranchers in the PNW for well over a decade. The breed and genetically engineer the herds for the biggest possible animals. Yet none of them are getting bulls at 8-10 years old that reach even 2300lbs?

Where are these 1.5 ton beasts at? do they grow bigger someplace else? Wyoming Idaho, Utah, Montana are the core of Bison habitat, yet nobody raising them and breeding for mass has ever had one this big

Ahh, just had a thought.... posed its Greenhorn or huntsonora? Just getting back for the BS on AFTERUM's thread?? If not, I apologise....


maddog

There is one place that Bison get to the 3000 pound mark, it is in the imagination of one blow hard internet comando

jwp, I think you ment 3000 mark... but I know what you meant....




maddog

Oops... I corrected the typo, Thanks

See...BFaucett was trying to make something decent out of this thread;

And here ya' are just now figuring it was lame to start with.

No, we knew it, just hoping that BFaucett would post about 5 pages of T&A to get through the BS.....

maddog

I been riding this one out but I know in my own mind, that Bison might approach the 2100-lb weight but I'll give you 7 to 1 odds on them not reaching 3000-lbs on the hoof live weight.

Eland are bigger generally speaking than a Bison, I have shot 4 of them and the 3 that got weighed were in the 1500 to 2000 pound class.
We have a small herd of bison not far from me and most bulls I have seen were under 1200 pounds, these are 5 and 6 year olds.

The largest Cape Buffalo I have ever seen on video, books or in Africa was no where near 2000 pounds, 1500-lbs I would estimate. Those that wish to shoot such an animal with a pistol, bow are what ever weapon of choice, as long as it's legal, have at it and enjoy the experience. Myself, I'll stick with the model 70 bolt gun!

Well, I do what I can to help out....











-Bob F.

Thank you for doing your best Bob F.

Hope this thread can now stay on track....

Now' we're talking...

WOOOO, I love me some Jamie...now where's blue sweater porch girl?

That brings something to mind...it's not talking.

As an aside I do have a sudden urge to floss however.

Bob, you have again saved the day and the thread. Mo'pleeze.

-Bob F.

Well it turned out to be a better thread than I expected, I was expecting the same old BS on the .45-70...Instead I have been bomarded with the scenery, and it is fantastic, unfortunatly it drags up old memories at least the ones I can remember!

The 45-70 is not an intelligent pick for African Dangerous Game btw..I wonder just how many 45-70 users have actually looked at a charging Cape Buffalo, elephant or Lion. I have and you couldn't pay me enough to stand a DG charge with one with any of the mythical handloads.

I guess that the Grizzly Ammo's 400 grain Punch bullet loads at 2000 FPS would just bounce off...





There are many loads for the 45-70 that will exit and that is not marginal IMHO&E. I have revolvers that will break shoulders and exit

sarcasm is not a good tool to illustrate a point. 400gr 45cal@ 2000 fps is VASTLY inferior to a 500gr2150 just from a Sectional Density perspective(penetration). If the bullet you show is a solid, I'm sure it penetrates like all getout but I think you miss the point between ADEQUATE, OPTIMUM and SUPERIOR. Clearly the 45/70 makes the adequate and nothing more. As I mentioned on a previous post, I saw some chinese lady kill a buffalo with a 454 Casull the other day so there is NO QUESTION a 45/70 will do that and more, but to say it is a "dangeorus game" cartridge is nonsense. If it was, it would be all over Africa instead of the 458 Win Mag just to name one.