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Still not a nice thing to do to family....................

In the world.....

No need to try to convince me. There's not another rifle made with the track record of the 700.

Swampman? Swampman 2 or Swampman Jr?

The Delorian had a track record too as does Bill Clinton....

This is the gospel

Clinton just got caught...

Are we talking a track record of accuracy, or are we talking a track record of trigger law suits. Seems like they're in a heap of trouble still with the never ending trigger issue.

Guys it's easy to see he's just trying to get a rise out of ya.

WGM is doing his best to restrain himself because you guys are bagging on the Big Green he worships. WGM-please, go out and shoot a Browning X-bolt.. Then come back, and tell us how you feel about handling a better rifle than what you are used to. You admitted that you never shoot anything other than Remington.. Give a real rifle a chance and you'll quickly realize that your Ford Taurus of the gun world lacks.... well, everything. Until you've tried something other than Rem-junk, you have no basis on which to compare other rifles.

Be warned though that it will be an ugly event when you realize what you have been missing, and you have to go home to a safe full of Remingtons...

The gospel of retards, inbreds and retarded inbred trolls.

If they need adjustment best to have the factory do this. When done right there're the best..............in the world.

And let's not forget glued on bolts and flimsy, sheet metal extractors, and at the Professional Hunters examinations in Zimbabwe, they came in dead last for reliabilty in dangerous game situations with extractors that are prone to breakage if dirt gets in them, rounds popping out when the bolt was slammed open during quick load attempts,and of course the fact the POS safety, in addition to beig UNSAFE, does not lock the bolt down when engaged. Great track record....

Just because I'm bored ...

1. I haven't shot an X-Bolt, but have owned or shot A-Bolts (I and II), Winchesters, Rugers (tang safety and MKII), Remingtons, Sakos, Savages, CZ, and many more ... so I've got a little real world experience with which to draw on when making my decisions

2. I don't worship at the altar of "Big Green", but admittedly do favor them

3. I don't quite know how to say that ANY rifle is "the best" as a general statement ... Like optics, there are MANY factors that go into the overall design that I take into consideration when choosing a rifle, or an optic (scope or binoculars). With regards to rifle actions specifically, I look at weight, reliability, strength, mag box constraints, aftermarket parts and/or mods for said actions, ease of maintenance and/or field repair should that become an issue, etc... on and on and on. All those things go into my thought process.

4. I'm sure there are many rifles/actions that do one thing or another better than others, so each person should evaluate what it is THEY like and/or require before deciding on a rifle action or production rifle, should that be what they are looking to purchase and use. I like what I like, and never claimed that my choices are better than anyone else, or that anyone else should do what I do.

5. Just in case you decided to single me out because of my earlier post about "best" not meaning "better than anything else", I was merely pointing out that one should read any ad clearly for exactly what is said, how it's said, and what is not said ... usually much more info can be gleaned by reading between the lines, rather than reading the sales pitch being given directly...

I wouldn't own a jap made Browning if it were free. Same goes for jap Howa/Weatherbys.

Me too jorge.....write a letter to Santa.

Aren't those the guys who hunt [bleep] outta the back of a Toyota ? Real compelling.

Read this -
http://firearmsid.com/A_bulletIDrifling.htm

I was at a barrel shop one day and saw a barrel being broached.
The machine that they used to do it was made in the 1920's and still worked as good as the day it was new.

The broached barrel costs 3 times as much to make and takes 20 times as long to make it.

When you work for a company that makes several hundred thousand barrels a year, which process do you think that your company would choose to use? If Remington would have kept the old approach a new Model 700 would cost $1000 to manufacture and sell. Instead you can get one - that I was told are now being made in North Carolina - which is a right to work state for half that amount.

The Unions in this country is what did in the gun industry, not to mention the bureaucrats in Washington - that every time they need a couple more million dollars to spend, put's another excise tax on the fire arms and ammo.

A box of ammo probably costs them $5 to make, but sells for $20 or more. Where is all the money going?

When Dupont owned the company they could afford to make rifles at a loss. The new owners refuses to make less then 20% over cost.

With hammer forging, it takes about a minute to make a standard barrel, it probably takes the machine operator longer to put the blank in the machine then what it does to make the barrel. The lathe that was used to drill the hole in the center does not have to drill the hole on center - because the hammer forging is what determines the final shape of the barrel and the contricity.

A Hydroformed frame for a 1999 Silverado pick up truck could be made in about 5 minutes. How long do you think that it took General Motors to make a steel frame for a 1974 Chevrolet truck.
Probably 20 minutes. This is what we call progress.

If I had my choice, I would choose a 1999 Chevrolet truck over a 1974, but the 1974 was a lot easier to work on and needed a lot less maintenance. 350 SBC - once a year you did a tune up - Points, Plugs and Condenser. About every 5 years you might put on a cap and rotor and change the coolant. About every 7 you would put on fan belts, and spark plug wires.

Today the check engine light comes on and you have to take it to a garage and pay someone $100 just to look at it to tell you what is wrong. Even if you can fix it, you still might have to take it back again to get the check engine light shut off after making the repairs. I guess that is what they call progress.

I suggest you check your facts before you post. Shooting out of the back of a Toyota (or any other vehicle) is illegal and subject to fine and arrest. Still what you said is irrelevant. Even if they did, their testing protocol are renowned in the industry and Remingtons SUCKED. I just posted facts not BS you make up as you go along to buttress and untenable position

Good rifle or not, I imagine Remington's 700 sales have plummeted since Swampy arrived on the scene.

Keep talking Swampy, they'll have to give them away in another week or so.

LOL.

Hey everbody, Swamprot has discovered how to forge quotes now. Now we can add lack of integrity to his many accolades.