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Hearing of bolt handles falling off and extractors breaking is irrelevant. What are my options? A 16 thousand dollar Model 70 ?
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Hearing of bolt handles falling off and extractors breaking is irrelevant. What are my options? A 16 thousand dollar Model 70 ? wow... would you pay that for one? I'll give you 2 for that price!
Something clever here.
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with or without bedding blocks ?
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A Model 70 for the same price. Paid about 650 bucks (1995) for this one and as you can see it does shoot; right out of the box:
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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No need to try to convince me. There's not another rifle made with the track record of the 700. Are we talking a track record of accuracy, or are we talking a track record of trigger law suits. Seems like they're in a heap of trouble still with the never ending trigger issue. If they need adjustment best to have the factory do this. When done right there're the best..............in the world. They're in hot water again over the trigger, CNBC'S REMINGTON UNDER FIRE: A CNBC INVESTIGATION Will Premiere On Wednesday, October 20th at 9PM ET http://www.cnbc.com/id/39383236
�I've never met a genius. A genius to me is someone who does well at something he hates. Anybody can do well at something he loves -- it's just a question of finding the subject.�
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Always going to be jealous people taking pot shots at the best...........in the world..................... in the world !!!
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Well, someone had to eventually unseat JeffObama as the world's biggest internet/outdoors dumbphuck.
It took Swampman a Herculean effort to do it, but damn if he didn't keep trying 'til he suck-seeded...
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Surprised these guys thought I was serious.
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I'm kind of enjoying watching his almost pathologically illogical, yet seemingly calm, responses to everyone. At least this is entertaining!
Selmer "Daddy, can you sometime maybe please go shoot a water buffalo so we can have that for supper? Please? And can I come along? Does it taste like deer?" - my 3-year old daughter
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No need to try to convince me. There's not another rifle made with the track record of the 700. Are we talking a track record of accuracy, or are we talking a track record of trigger law suits. Seems like they're in a heap of trouble still with the never ending trigger issue. And let's not forget glued on bolts and flimsy, sheet metal extractors, and at the Professional Hunters examinations in Zimbabwe, they came in dead last for reliabilty in dangerous game situations with extractors that are prone to breakage if dirt gets in them, rounds popping out when the bolt was slammed open during quick load attempts,and of course the fact the POS safety, in addition to beig UNSAFE, does not lock the bolt down when engaged. Great track record.... Jorge, I have not been a hunter of dangerous game nor ever will be. In view of this I am in no position to comment on what the African professionals think of the Remingtons. I can only say I have used Remintons for something over 50 years and have NEVER experienced any of the problems you mentioned in your post. Not saying they have never happened but I have never seen it in my guns nor in those used by many friends. I know you constantly make reference to these "defects", however, as I said before, I have never experienced them. My safe contains a variety of makers guns and probably the most are Remingtons (I haven't gone down to the safe to count them.) I believe your point of reference is for the types of use you make of them. I'm sure thousands of users are like me and find your complaints a little hard to swallow. I don't buy Swampmans opinion but at the same time I don't agree with yours either. After 15 pages I think we all have to agree to disagree. Jim
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If you were serious you would have said "the best in the fuggin world"
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Only ADL's are interesting...
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Well, someone had to eventually unseat JeffObama as the world's biggest internet/outdoors dumbphuck.
It took Swampman a Herculean effort to do it, but damn if he didn't keep trying 'til he suck-seeded... In defense of JeffO he sometimes inserts foot in mouth but he can laugh at himself and once in awhile admits he is wrong. Swampman is in a class of dumb [bleep] that has no equal at this time or in all of recorded history. He is quite simply "The best in the World" in that category
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If I'm ever wrong, I'll try to laugh about it.
You just can't beat a Remington.....They are perfection!
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I'm thinking of sending my ADL to be auctioned off at the next SCI convention.
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If I'm ever wrong, I'll try to laugh about it.
You just can't beat a Remington.....They are perfection! How long ago did you have your lobotomy?
"For joy of knowing what may not be known we take the golden road to Samarkand." James Elroy Flecker
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Those ADLs rock....you should just auction the rest of those clubs you call rifles.
1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983 919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
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No problem Jim. At least I can say that in my safe sits one very accurate Remington, a 22-250 stainless Heavy Barreled Varminter that's murder on chucks. But yes, we'll agree to disagree, I won't own another one. jorge
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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No problem Jim. At least I can say that in my safe sits one very accurate Remington, a 22-250 stainless Heavy Barreled Varminter that's murder on chucks. From now on I'll buy nothing but Remingtons jorge Now you're learnin' jorge
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"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
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A Browning A-bolt or X-bolt, a real rifle, you got to be kidding. Name me one F-class or highpower shooter that uses an A-bolt or X-bolt action. I'm not saying Remingtons are the end all of rifles, but you can damn sure do worse.
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