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Big, Medium, Small,....all the same when they show up near the house for breakfast. Saute' over a very low heat, Garlic, and a dash of Taragon,.....go VERY easy on the salt. serve with Eggs, and fresh Corn Tortillas. GTC [IMG] http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/robbinmyers/Snake1.jpg[/IMG] Damn Greg! Ya never said ya got snakes when you invited me to your place!! Later... ps I still plan on showin up someday
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Take a triangle from Page Arizona to 4 Corners, to Grand Junction, that's about the range of the concolor, and I doubt if 10,000 people live within that space of what, 10,000 sq mi.?
Spent 1 1/2 year at Page, with most of my spare time on the desert. Can't recall seeing ANY snake at all. I like it that way. Bruce
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Spent 1 1/2 year at Page, with most of my spare time on the desert. Can't recall seeing ANY snake at all. I like it that way.
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I have read quite a bit about Timbers and Canebreaks, and some experts think they are the same species but different coloration because of geographical location.
Other experts think they are either a seperate species or one is a sub-species of the other. I have also read that there is talk of doing DNA analysis to determine the exact status of these two types.
But, as of now, I don't know if anyone actually knows if the two snakes are related, and if so, by how much.
I do know that in this area, or actually on our deer hunting lease in South GA, the one pictured in Badger's post, with the stripe down it's back, is most often referred to as a Canebreak, while the ones without the stripe are referred to as Timbers.
As far as aggressive, the only snake venomous or non venomous, I have ever had strike at me was a Canebreak about 3 feet long. Fortunately, I was about 3 inches out of his strike zone.
I saw a movement and heard a slight noise. I did not know what it was so I looked closer and it struck again, again missing my leg by about 3 inches. The second time, even though I was looking at it, was so unbelievely fast that there was no way of dodging it if I had been in range.
It struck at me a total of 3 times, and I had done nothing to provoke it. I didn't even know it was there until the second strike, when I saw it move. Scary.
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If you find playing with snakes a wee bit thrilling.....we have a sweet, docile little wonder over here called a Taipan (inland Brown).
I guarantee you that your lot will be an awful lot more exciting when you grab it by the tail.
.....for a short time, anyway! From what I see... everything's poisonous down under. I had friends growing up, triplet boys, plus one older brother, who'd lived in Australia from ages 4-7. Their Brit mother was a nervous wreck by the time they moved here. She said they could never leave a snake alone, and Australia was a bad place to raise reptile-obsessed laddies.
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If you find playing with snakes a wee bit thrilling.....we have a sweet, docile little wonder over here called a Taipan (inland Brown).
I guarantee you that your lot will be an awful lot more exciting when you grab it by the tail.
.....for a short time, anyway! From what I see... everything's poisonous down under. I had friends growing up, triplet boys, plus one older brother, who'd lived in Australia from ages 4-7. Their Brit mother was a nervous wreck by the time they moved here. She said they could never leave a snake alone, and Australia was a bad place to raise reptile-obsessed laddies. if it aint venomous its a python.....IIRC Australia has exactly 2 snakes that are neither a python nor venomous......
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I have read quite a bit about Timbers and Canebreaks, and some experts think they are the same species but different coloration because of geographical location.
Other experts think they are either a seperate species or one is a sub-species of the other. I have also read that there is talk of doing DNA analysis to determine the exact status of these two types.
But, as of now, I don't know if anyone actually knows if the two snakes are related, and if so, by how much.
I do know that in this area, or actually on our deer hunting lease in South GA, the one pictured in Badger's post, with the stripe down it's back, is most often referred to as a Canebreak, while the ones without the stripe are referred to as Timbers.
As far as aggressive, the only snake venomous or non venomous, I have ever had strike at me was a Canebreak about 3 feet long. Fortunately, I was about 3 inches out of his strike zone.
I saw a movement and heard a slight noise. I did not know what it was so I looked closer and it struck again, again missing my leg by about 3 inches. The second time, even though I was looking at it, was so unbelievely fast that there was no way of dodging it if I had been in range.
It struck at me a total of 3 times, and I had done nothing to provoke it. I didn't even know it was there until the second strike, when I saw it move. Scary. I killed that one in Stewart County on the Ga/Al state line near Lake Eufaula.
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Our property is in Washington county, between Milledgville and Sandersville, in a community called Deep Step.
I have also hunted Stewart County several years ago.
Both areas, yours and mine, are about on the boundry line between north of there they are Timbers and to the South, they are Cane breaks.
We seem to have more Cottonmouths than anything. I mean the genuine article, not the banded water snakes many people refer to as Cottonmouths.
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I do. Do you know the chance of a anyone being bitten by a venomous snake? I spoke at length with one of our local ER doctors about treating snake bites and he told me most people who are bitten by venomous snakes are drunk when it happens, indicating that most people are bitten while harassing them. If you don't bother the snakes, the snakes won't bother you. It seems you are using their percieved danger to humans as an excuse for killing them. At the Regional Medical center ER I worked at for 30 years, we would treat about 15 Poisonous snakebites/yr. I don't recall any of them I saw as being drunk. Most were kids outdoors at night, frequently bare-footed, or adults reaching into the wood-pile or other likely place where mice hid.
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I do. Do you know the chance of a anyone being bitten by a venomous snake? I spoke at length with one of our local ER doctors about treating snake bites and he told me most people who are bitten by venomous snakes are drunk when it happens, indicating that most people are bitten while harassing them. If you don't bother the snakes, the snakes won't bother you. It seems you are using their percieved danger to humans as an excuse for killing them. At the Regional Medical center ER I worked at for 30 years, we would treat about 15 Poisonous snakebites/yr. I don't recall any of them I saw as being drunk. Most were kids outdoors at night, frequently bare-footed, or adults reaching into the wood-pile or other likely place where mice hid. thats been my experience aswell.....though if you take bite numbers as a whole across the entire US alcohol seems to be an issue in alot of bites....kids make up the second largest group and ppl just out working in the yard the third.....
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Am scheduled to hunt in Belize next year. I think they call the big lance-heads "yellow-jawed Tommygoffs". Guess they also have some of the tropical rattlers down there.
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http://consejo.bz/belize/snakes.htmlnasty ones down that way.....wouldnt stop me from hunting but i would watch where i step and put my hands.....may i ask what your planning to hunt down there?
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.....though if you take bite numbers as a whole across the entire US alcohol seems to be an issue in alot of bites....kids make up the second largest group and ppl just out working in the yard the third..... I printed a copy of this for my wife. I've never been fond of yard work.
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http://consejo.bz/belize/snakes.htmlnasty ones down that way.....wouldnt stop me from hunting but i would watch where i step and put my hands.....may i ask what your planning to hunt down there? Water buffalo(supposed to be the first year offered) and white-lipped peccary. Then some river and reef-fishing. One cannot take one's rifles into the country. We will be using shotguns of residents.
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Am scheduled to hunt in Belize next year. I think they call the big lance-heads "yellow-jawed Tommygoffs". Guess they also have some of the tropical rattlers down there. I believe the Tommy Goffs are usually seen under the name of Fer-de-lance..the yellow jawed ( or beard..Barba Amarilla) is the Bushmaster...or indeed I could have them bass ackwards... But the two are there, and the tropical rattlers are REALLY cool lookin, though I dont know their proper name...I could have a REAL good time messing with snakes there!!! Ingwe
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.....though if you take bite numbers as a whole across the entire US alcohol seems to be an issue in alot of bites....kids make up the second largest group and ppl just out working in the yard the third..... I printed a copy of this for my wife. I've never been fond of yard work. my wife wishes my interest in snakes was a lil less so.....if i come across one it has my entire focus......she really gets pissy when i dive into the brush after a bullsnake when im dressed up for state meetings she got damn pissed the one time cause she thought it was embarrassing as hell i dove down the side of a hill cause i saw a large racer a short ways down the hill in the middle of a conversation with someone she knew....i caught the racer though, good sized and didnt try to bite to bad....
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Am scheduled to hunt in Belize next year. I think they call the big lance-heads "yellow-jawed Tommygoffs". Guess they also have some of the tropical rattlers down there. I believe the Tommy Goffs are usually seen under the name of Fer-de-lance..the yellow jawed ( or beard..Barba Amarilla) is the Bushmaster...or indeed I could have them bass ackwards... But the two are there, and the tropical rattlers are REALLY cool lookin, though I dont know their proper name...I could have a REAL good time messing with snakes there!!! Ingwe i really think you and i need to go on an overseas hunt together
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Oh Krapp Sheridan..we could have a BALL!!! My last trip to Africa we went after some snakes...it was mega-cool Puff adders, a cobra, and a Rock Python...the python hadnt been watching Steve Irwin on TV and when I approached him he tried to actively bite me!!! It was GREAT!!!! Ingwe
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im working on Australia for 2013.......
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Krapppppppp....let me start working on a savings account.... Ingwe
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