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I would like to know, other than whatever the Outfitter thing was.He has more real deal/life experience than 99.9% of anyone on this forum,including,me.
He was one I always listened to,not that we always agreed, but he is older than I, which is hard to get these days.Not a concrete Cowboy in any way, like some who have more money than brains.He lived/lives the life..
His post will be missed...
Enlighten me as a curious poster.
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what are you talking about ?
what i miss ?
ray got banned or something ?
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Two reasons I suspect.
First, everyone says or does something stupid occasionally.
Secondly, arseholes hunt in packs.
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It was on the African forum and everyone jumped on the bandwagon like blind dogs.I just don't get it with all he has to offer to the new guys..
Maybe he screwed up on a deal or two in business but I could care less.His opinion and experiences in hunting and firearms, are not "SECOND TO ANYONE" here currently posting.
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I really hope this issue can be resolved and that Ray will continue here.
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He has more real deal/life experience than 99.9% of anyone on this forum... Just to play devil's advocate: How do you know that for sure? Also see this thread on AR: http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/832100588/m/9871046141A few posts from the AR thread: Originally posted by GeorgeS: Originally posted by NitroX:
I wonder if shooting buffalo this way is the way an agent gets his "history" of "over a hundred buffalo".
:rotflmo: No, he counts the ones his clients have shot as his own. :rolleyes: George Originally posted by GeorgeS: Originally posted by Ganyana: In the dark ages of the internet (before AR) I occasionaly went on a site selling hunts called 'huntAmerica.com'...and I remember Ray posting about comming out to Africa on his first hunt. It wasn't that long ago  a decade perhaps ...but I have a couple of real slooths looking up those old posts... Ray- come out from hiding or I will post the time and place of your first African Hunt - in your own words George I recommend that anyone interested in this topic about Ray really needs to read the entire thread over on AR (link posted above). My two cents.... -Bob F.
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I think the answer is he jumped into the frying pan.
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Ray has been prone to fabricate and/or embellish his accomplishments, experience (and liberally "borrow" from others experience to portray as his own), and in recent years the expectations of the hunts he's advertised.
My statement is easily backed up with empirical evidence, as it's all available online on various hunt Forums going back several years.... if one is inclined to look for themselves instead of remaining gullible.
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There is a group of individuals that have a bone to pick with Ray, and they never miss an opportunity to bring up past grievances and start the name calling.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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He has more real deal/life experience than 99.9% of anyone on this forum,including,me.
He was one I always listened to,not that we always agreed, but he is older than I, which is hard to get these days.Not a concrete Cowboy in any way, like some who have more money than brains.He lived/lives the life..
Now this is funny! Ray got hammered because he had trouble in 2 key areas, those areas are truth and reality. Drummond
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And here come the Wolves....How do I no that Bob??????Because I have been there done that and no chit from the real deal.I could care less about Africa other than knowing the African guys go out of there way to blow out anyone that disagrees...JJ Hack himself brings up the 45-70 in Africa to get out of a disagreement.
Randy Garrett was one on AR but since Jorge is using a levergun now,there in and cool.
I said right off..I don't care if Ray made a bad choice in buisness,I said his post for the normal guys here looking for advice, would be missed with the experience he has...
Thats all...
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Who cares about what goes on over at AR? AR is nothin but a bunch of candy A$$ drama queens.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Using an awful broad brush there, aren't ya? Landrum Who cares about what goes on over at AR? AR is nothin but a bunch of candy A$$ drama queens.
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so the question remains did Rick ban Ray due to his pitching a possible illegal hunt in Africa? Personally I don't know much about Ray but two posters seem to follow him around like they have a personal vendetta against him.
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Using an awful broad brush there, aren't ya? Landrum Who cares about what goes on over at AR? AR is nothin but a bunch of candy A$$ drama queens. No, he isn't.
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I don't believe (could be wrong of course) Ray was banned here nor on AR. He simply picked up his marbles and went home.
That's his MO whenever he's called out..... after he's blustered and made threats.
Fear not, several months to a year or so from now, Ray will be back.
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He crossed the people who really run this site.
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Please change your font.....it is very hard on the eyes.
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