Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Why was Ray Atkinson fried?

Embellishment and tall tales are one thing.... Passing over fantasy on the Internet is fine. But when Ray's hunt offering exposes a potential client of his to Lacey Act violations, and the potential to be prosecuted under said act, then that is something else again.

Again, read the entire thread on AR and decide for yourself.

-Bob F.

If he ever stumbles into something you actually know quite a bit about, you might find he actually knows next to nothing about it. Certainly, he might be an expert at some things, but he ain't quite the guy he thinks he is.

And along those lines, when the chips were down, he never did cowboy-up like he so often bragged he would. He's sort of a fair-weather blast of hot air.

I won't miss him.

So is he off the air on both forums?

His last/most recent post on AR was on Oct 14, 2010.

His last/most recent post here on the 24HCF was on Oct 8, 2010.

(This is as of the date and time of my post on here.)

-Bob F.

There's one thing I have learned by hanging out on the Nitro Express forums (which is hosted by an Australian) since 2004... Our Australian friends are VERY serious about their hunting!




Cheers, mate!

-Bob F.

Same to you Bob.

My favorite story that Ray ever posted (on AR) was the one where he and some mexican cowboys caught some wild cows and sewed there eyelids shut so they could be sold or moved.

Ray posted some hunts for muledeer that I could afford and was interested up to the point where he refused to provide any photo's of all the big deer that had been killed on the ranch according to Ray...hmmm.

I have said it before and will say it again I think its great that some of the guys here brought to my attention that Ray refused to show any photo's of animals killed on his leases.

Dink

To be honest Dink, I do not know anyone that carries a camera about with them.
Were I to pay for the privilege of hunting in some exotic clime I would most definitely have a camera to keep mementos of the trip, I would take none of the game shot as dead things in pictures do not really ring my bells.

If I were selling my services as a guide I would make sure that I had an album full of animals shot by clients.

Don't forget that Ray did provide a few pictures a few years back. The picture of the biggest deer "they" had ever killed was a buck killed by a friend of mine that had never heard of Ray Atkinson and Ray inflated the score by 30"! The other deer were killed by friends of mine that had never heard of Ray and were killed on a ranch that no client of Rays would ever hunt. These pictures are still on his website for anybody interested in seeing them.

Ray also advertised a buck that was poached in a closed county that was quite a distance from the ranch henwas trying to promote.

The problem with Ray is that you have outfitters that try to sell themselves to these booking agents and then the agents pimp these hunts to their clients so your essentially doubling the BS by the time you hear about it. Good booking agents are able to sift through the BS and advertise accordingly, Ray is incapable of doing this. Ray just exaggerates the hell out of those hunts. The sad part is that the hunts were priced right and provided a decent opportunity but Ray just killed it with his advertising practices.

And the 26" antelope he saw?!? WTF? He doesn't have a clue and some of you guys think he walks on water. It's yet more proof to the phrase "there's a sucker born every minute"

Drummond

Think again, I do not think enough of anyone anywhere to think that they walk on water.

And the reason that I chat to you lot here is so I can flip the page when I get sick of you......walk on water, hardly.

no_one,

He can speak for himself, of course, but I don't think huntsonora's reply was directed to you personally. I think he was just making a post to everyone, in general.

-Bob F.

Then I apologise unreservedly.

No worries bud! I didnt really direct that at any one person in particular and especially not at you.

Also, I'll trade you a mule deer hunt for a hunt in Australia if your interested! My girlfriend and I want to go and if I could squeeze in a hunt it would make the flight a lot more bearable

I cannot afford to go anywhere....but if you came here, what do you have it in mind to hunt?

so boss lady who really runs this site???

Neat pictures. what happened to get the truck into that predicament?

Jayco,

Like you, I value others experiences and respect my elders, it was how I was brought up. I believe as some others have commented, where Ray went over the edge is that he is doing this to make money. I don't know much about Africa, except what I read but it seemed what he was selling could have put a guy spending his hard earned money, in alot of trouble with the law.

Best regards.

a hunting site is going to be full of BS, and it would be sad if Ray turned out to be a crook. Just as bad is the concept that all he posted was BS borrowed or stolen from someone else. He gives the impression of being a older gentlemen that has hunted all of his life, owns his own spread, and very knowledgeable. I guess on the internet anyone can be anything if they are a good enough liar! Oldman/bosslady the question to you is who in your opinion runs this site??

Yep. Love to see those shots of stuff outside the North America / Afirca norm

Fair enough