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Dude, you don't understand people like Cecil Newton. And really, what is going to happen to Cam? Nothing. He'll be in the NFL next year making millions and Auburn will be stuck picking up the pieces. In the end, Cecil Newton didn't care that much if it got out. He just wanted his money because by the time it all got out, Cam would be long gone. It backfired a little, but they almost made it and certainly Cam will be a millioniare next year anyway.

It's hearsay if there isn't an opportunity to cross examine, isn't it?

When a guy says, "I was there and such and such happened", that isn't hearsay, that is eyewitness testimony.

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So you're telling me that in the State of Alabama someone can videotape an allegation and then commit suicide, and the videotaped allegation can still be played at a trial as eyewitness testimony?

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You cannot win this one. AR fans are NEVER wrong. They know everything and you only think you might know something and at the end of the day it's all Houston Nutt's fault anyway. THE END.


Nail

.280,

You cannot win this one. AR fans are NEVER wrong. They know everything and you only think you might know something and at the end of the day it's all Houston Nutt's fault anyway. THE END.


Nail

"The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity."

There are those of us who come from a time and place where integrity and character were expected. Old fools that we are, we still believe that to be a good thing.

That's kind of the question that I have been asking myself. Have things changed that much or do we just have more access to info? Probably some of both.

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You're truly a tool, and over a game of football no less. You just make stuff up and make yourself look about 12 years old. We've only talked about what is on every sports reporting network. You're now on ignore because if you're this way over football, I don't want to read what you think about something that really matters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RbTH3qvsck

Jim ...

You seem to be taking this all too personally ... even before things got skippy between individuals, you have seemed to take offense to people having an opinion that Newton is guilty. Really, you need to relax a bit ...

It's like I said earlier ... OJ Simpson was found not guilty in the court of law, but we all pretty much know that just because it was not able to be proven, that it's about a 99.9% chance that he did it. Now, just extrapolate a bit to the Cam Newton situation and I think you'll understand some people's positions a little better.

I'll admit that there's no 'evidence' yet that can be used to prove that Newton should be deemed ineligible, and that it's all just a bunch of "he said, he said" at this point in time. But the other side of this is that there isn't just a single incident of "bad behavior" from Newton. It appears to be a more chronic problem with his decision making and sense of entitlement.

Do you really think that it's all just a bunch of coincidence that he ended up with a stolen laptop, is being accused of having three separate cheating instances at UF, and that he's now got people saying that he had an 'agent' saying that he had to be paid to commit to a school, and that he may have had a phone conversation saying that he went to AU because "the money was just too much"?

Again ... one single thing and I'd be inclined to believe someone is trying to screw him ... but look at the 'body of work' being laid out right now and you'd be blind not to see how people would not want to give the kid the benefit of the doubt.

Like I told you in my PM with you earlier ... if I had to bet my life on it, I'd wager that what's being said about this "pay to play" situation is true ... but whether or not it can be proven is another issue ... but I'm not basing my opinion on whether or not they can trace the money that I think had to have changed hands.

I also know (like I said to you in the PM) that this happens at all major universities with just about all the big star players ... it's just a matter of if/when they do get caught.

Unfortunately, for whatever reason(s) - sour grapes, etc. - Cam's situation is being exposed ... and it will cause issues for him. Will those issues include him being declared ineligible? Will he end up losing the Heisman vote? Who knows ... but hopefully the investigation will be speedy, and he'll either be cleared quickly, or he'll be 'caught' ... but either way, it will be over ...