You are not listening, that was after Lamotta beat him the first time, that he went to 41-1.. then he ran his record to 126-1 until losing again to Randy Turpin in 1951
I got a box of bullets with your name on them.
I get the Lomatta fights confused, but the point I'm making is that at one point he was 126-1, do you dispute that?
You said he was 126-1 when he fought Lomatta the third time, which is false. I corrected you. Now you're moving the goal posts.
If you're not counting draws and No Contests, I wouldn't be suprised if he went 126-1 at one time or another. He was on the bum of the week program there for a few years and was racking up wins left and right. He didn't have much of a choice back then because boxers weren't paid like they are now. He most likely never made more than $100 a fight for long stretches of his career, hence the reason he fought so often. Archie Moore did the same thing. Hence the gigantic record.
Brian.
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
So what, what was it then, the fourth or fifth time he fought Lamotta he was 126-1? You get my point. 126-1, whether is was the third time they met or the fifth. All I can tell you is you are about the only one who knows boxing who will not put Ray Robinson in the top five of all time in any weight class.
I mean google top ten boxers of all time, can they all be wrong?
All I can tell you is you are about the only one who knows boxing who will not put Ray Robinson in the top five of all time in any weight class.
He'd be somewhere in there, along with Ali, Moore, Louis, ect.
If I ever said otherwise, I must have been in a mood to jerk your chain.
Brian.
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
Pushing Pacman vs Robinson isn't doable.....Robinson was a welterweight/middleweight fighter. Pacman is smaller. In other words, Robinson would have slaughtered him at 147.
Duran vs Pacman at 135 would simply add to the Duran legend and cement his place in history as the greatest lighweight ever. 7 years as lightweight champ during the 70's is unbelieveable....
Marciano accomplished a lot for his size. I read somewhere, after he knocked out an aging Louis he went back to the dressing room and cried instead of celebrating.
.......because Robinson has been dead for 21 years.
Brian.
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
I wonder why this comes to mind every time I open this thread?
Brian.
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
Robinson was just to big for Pacman. Duran was to physical. Both would win against Pacman. Armstrong, too for that matter. Bad dudes.
Would Jack Johnson beat Manny Pacquiao? How about Abe Lincoln? Teddy Roosevelt?
Brian.
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
I guess these new super duper high 'technique' fighters got it made, 12 rounds max. I reckon we need to not go to the top of the list that could whip Pacman.....Boom Boom Mancini could have put it on him.
I guess these new super duper high 'technique' fighters got it made, 12 rounds max. I reckon we need to not go to the top of the list that could whip Pacman.....Boom Boom Mancini could have put it on him.
Nooo, now you have gone too far. I liked Mancini, but pac-man would have chewed him up
