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Not entirely directed at the specific situation, but at 14 a kid is in those years that they defy authority. At that time they can be taught respect for authority, or the defiance of it can be reinforced. It is not the time for huggy maternal nurturing, it is time for masculine knock you across the room discipline. Limits clearly defined, as are penalties and rewards.
Now back when I was a kid, had I used such language in someone elses house I would have been tossed out. Then they would have called the old man. The azz beating would have been epic, biblical level stuff. Know where the line is, and know that on the other side of the line is pain and suffering.
The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
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Not entirely directed at the specific situation, but at 14 a kid is in those years that they defy authority. At that time they can be taught respect for authority, or the defiance of it can be reinforced. It is not the time for huggy maternal nurturing, it is time for masculine knock you across the room discipline. Limits clearly defined, as are penalties and rewards.
Now back when I was a kid, had I used such language in someone elses house I would have been tossed out. Then they would have called the old man. The azz beating would have been epic, biblical level stuff. Know where the line is, and know that on the other side of the line is pain and suffering. Where and when you came from, could your friend's brother just call you a [bleep] and expect you to just say "yes sir"?
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Can I change my answer? If so, I think that kid needs a good tasing! Let us all know when it's on youtube.
BTW, did you get made fun of/beat up a lot as a kid? I'm thinking for a 25 year old man to get riled up about a young teenager, you've got to have had some anger issues relating to childhood. How'd I do? Free psychiatric help on the web is pretty cool! Nope. Never had a problem with that. I have always been bigger, stronger than 98% of everyone I know. Plus, I have been in several fights protecting others... For example the handicapped little brother of one of my high school girl friends.... 3 on 1.... The one (me) won. I got to agree with Ilhonda on this one. From what you're saying here, you must be the poster child for the stereotype of the kid who got sand kicked in his face at school but then got to be poleece when he grew up and now it is on. You're lucky the fourteen year old didn't jack you up and kick your asss. Maybe Dinkhead will be around to give you some backup. He's another well-respected LEO around here.
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How'd I do? Free psychiatric help on the web is pretty cool! Careful, L., you're treading on 'Hawk's territory . I'd be more interested in your take most of the time, though. As far as the OP, I can't see me calling out a punk. If I did and got that response, I pretty much earned it. The swearing in front of mom, though, is something that your brother should be dealing with quick, fast and in a hurry. George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Not entirely directed at the specific situation, but at 14 a kid is in those years that they defy authority. At that time they can be taught respect for authority, or the defiance of it can be reinforced. It is not the time for huggy maternal nurturing, it is time for masculine knock you across the room discipline. Limits clearly defined, as are penalties and rewards.
Now back when I was a kid, had I used such language in someone elses house I would have been tossed out. Then they would have called the old man. The azz beating would have been epic, biblical level stuff. Know where the line is, and know that on the other side of the line is pain and suffering. Where and when you came from, could your friend's brother just call you a [bleep] and expect you to just say "yes sir"? 1) One act does not precipitate the other. 2) I don't remember any [bleep] when I was a kid. It was, as it should be, an abomination. If there were [bleep], and I'm sure there were, they kept it in the closet were it belongs. Social stigma has a purpose.
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The swearing in front of mom, though, is something that your brother should be dealing with quick, fast and in a hurry.
George There it is!!!! That's what I said. Even if it costs $50.
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Something's wrong with the lad if he doesn't have it in his head already.
Sissy or not, disrespecting mom should be punished. Yes, even if he takes an azz kicking in the process it will build character.
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So the other day, my 14 year old brother and two of his friends were in his room... Skinny jeans, Vans shoes, long hair etc. All that stupid chit...
So I hear them singing "Kesha" or, excuse me "Ke$ha".... I go into the room and basically question them about their sexual preference....
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2) I am MORE than willing to deal with consequences of someone getting upset about that... I can more than handle myself...
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You guys are not as bright as I thought
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BTW, my little brother did nothing. He is definately NOT a Alpha male at all and is pretty much a sissy.
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youre about as much of a dumbass as I have ever seen on the fire.
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btw, if that kid decides to drop a f bomb on every one who calls him homosexual in a joking manner through out his life, he is in for a lot of hospital visits....
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Never had a problem with that. I have always been bigger, stronger than 98% of everyone I know. Plus, I have been in several fights protecting others... For example the handicapped little brother of one of my high school girl friends.... 3 on 1.... The one (me) won.
A compilation of excerpts from your posts in this thread tells a lot. Everybody else is a homo, you're a big tough guy, and you got tell everyone so they'll know, because the worst thing in the world that could happen to you is someone thinking you're gay. And, in your head, if you hear a kid listening to some music you deem "homo" you better go call him a homo, else someone might think you're a homo, right? Do you spend your waking hours in mortal fear that every move you make, every thing you say will cause someone to think you're gay? Do you frequently call things you see other guy wear "gay" because they don't fit your notion of manly?
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I can't think of any of my older brothers friends that I did NOT tell to [bleep] off. I also can't think of any that did NOT kick my ass. I also can't think of any that I wouldn't be happy to buy a beer if I were to bump into them. And they would do the same.
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Not entirely directed at the specific situation, but at 14 a kid is in those years that they defy authority. At that time they can be taught respect for authority, or the defiance of it can be reinforced. It is not the time for huggy maternal nurturing, it is time for masculine knock you across the room discipline. Limits clearly defined, as are penalties and rewards.
Now back when I was a kid, had I used such language in someone elses house I would have been tossed out. Then they would have called the old man. The azz beating would have been epic, biblical level stuff. Know where the line is, and know that on the other side of the line is pain and suffering. Where and when you came from, could your friend's brother just call you a [bleep] and expect you to just say "yes sir"? 1) One act does not precipitate the other. 2) I don't remember any [bleep] when I was a kid. It was, as it should be, an abomination. If there were [bleep], and I'm sure there were, they kept it in the closet were it belongs. Social stigma has a purpose. Didn't really answer the question directly, but I suspect that had someone called you a [bleep], you'd have dealt with it swiftly, no?
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Not entirely directed at the specific situation, but at 14 a kid is in those years that they defy authority. At that time they can be taught respect for authority, or the defiance of it can be reinforced. It is not the time for huggy maternal nurturing, it is time for masculine knock you across the room discipline. Limits clearly defined, as are penalties and rewards.
Now back when I was a kid, had I used such language in someone elses house I would have been tossed out. Then they would have called the old man. The azz beating would have been epic, biblical level stuff. Know where the line is, and know that on the other side of the line is pain and suffering. Love your philosophy here. I remember those days too. Times have changed and the system is pretty much broken. Children are taught at an early age that any kind of negativity towards them is abuse (whether it be verbal or actual physical, spanking). Teachers tell them to call 911 because abuse is abuse, so they are told. Another thing a parent can't do is take the phone away when a child is threatening to call that number (been there done that), had to learn the hard way. I'll tell you guys what, I'm not an abusive person; but when your 14 year old son is telling your wife WTF and F YOU and I TOLD YOU NOT TO, then you go down to try and handle things and you are told "WTF ARE YOU DOING". You threaten a spanking, go to pick the young boy up and he in turn trys to strike at you. You drop his arse on the floor and he threatens to call that number. You as the parent better not take the phone away or you will be thrown in jail. You, otherwise, never being in any sort of trouble will not be the one the police believe. It will always be the kid that has the advocates because the system is screwed up. How can we turn it around???
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He would have been escorted out of the house and told if he returned to have his medical insurance card with him. I will not tolerate that kind of behavior from an adult let alone a kid.
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I would have left and not come back. That is more under his roof than mine. Of course if he carries it to the street than so do I. Maybe he gets to meet Mr. Louis Ash.
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I honestly do not see what the big deal is. A 14 year old telling his friends older brother "[bleep] you"? Been going on a loooong time folks. And it wasn't even FC's house to begin with. He doesn't even live there.
As far as the comment to the mother, some parents would giggle at the comment depending on the context. I ain't one. But I know many.
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You implied that a 14 year old kid was a homo, and he told you pretty much what any heterosexual male will tell you under those circumstances.
You're 25.
It's time to stop aggrevating kids. Plus one. Be thankful your brother has friends with balls.
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Cussed once around my Grandad and spit blood for it. Told me in no uncertian terms to respect my elders. Lesson learned and never made that mistake EVER agian.
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You were about as outta line as anyone could ever get.
I think your little brothers big brother has the attitude problem....
YOU owe the apology in this case.
Either man up, apologize and salvage the situation or go away and don't look back like a coward.
But for Christs sakes, start acting like an adult instead of a 12 year old.
And BTW, it don't matter what a couple of 14 year olds were doing or anything else. Butt out, it's none of your F'n business..... youre about as much of a dumbass as I have ever seen on the fire. I hope when you have kids your 14 decides to act like that, and we will see where you go from there. I guess you didn't get the answer you were looking for?
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My Dad did the same thing.
Then I went to school and told older kids to [bleep] off.... And if somebody 15 years older than me tries to run their mouth, I won't hesitate to tell them to [bleep] off either.
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Depends on the situation. I was refering to family; especially Mom, Dad, Grandparents and such. I won't disrespect them.
"That's what happens when your leaders stop being an American and start being a politician." George S. Patton What would Yoda do...your ass kick it he would.
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