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How'd I do? Free psychiatric help on the web is pretty cool! Careful, L., you're treading on 'Hawk's territory  . I'd be more interested in your take most of the time, though. As far as the OP, I can't see me calling out a punk. If I did and got that response, I pretty much earned it. The swearing in front of mom, though, is something that your brother should be dealing with quick, fast and in a hurry. George Oh, dear. Compared to TRH?  A thousand pardons, and I will now excuse myself from opining further. Now I know what Lucy of Peanuts fame felt like, and she charged a whole nickel! 
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Coues,
You called a 14 year old a [bleep] and he gave you the response most males would give you. Get over it. You started it and were the bully. It obviously bothers you hence this thread. With you being a LEO, you are going to have to grow up and learn how to talk to people respectfully or you will not be in your profession long. Sounds to me like you have the attitude problem.
As for him talking to your mom, not the correct way to put it and not for you to handle. It is not your house and it sounds like the kid was telling the truth.
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Depends on the situation. I was refering to family; especially Mom, Dad, Grandparents and such. I won't disrespect them. Agreed. Travis
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Not directed at you DeFlave but to the original poster.
I don't think the 14 year old liked the assertian you made and from the sounds of his response he is not a sexually confused male and that is a good thing. Look at the bright side he had the 'balls" to man up to you. He may have been wrong saying what he said in someone else's home but you jacked him up and pizzed him off. You might want to be careful and just chalk it up and laugh about it cause one day that 14 year old will grow up. You never know what discipline he might get involved in. Leave it alone and be happy he's not sexually confused and try to start earning his respect. After inserting your foot so deep down your throat that itself will be a challenge. See how good you really are at dealing with situations like that. Will make you a better LEO IMO.
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So the other day, my 14 year old brother and two of his friends were in his room... Skinny jeans, Vans shoes, long hair etc. All that stupid chit...
So I hear them singing "Kesha" or, excuse me "Ke$ha".... I go into the room and basically question them about their sexual preference....
One of the 14 year old boys than told me (I'm 25), in a serious voice "[bleep] you!" I was astounded by this and wanted to grab his long ass hair and throw him out of the house...
About an hour or so later they come out of their room and this same 14 year old punk tells my MOTHER how I am an "[bleep]".
What should be done about this little punk? It has seriously been on my mind for the past 3 days. I talked to my dad about it and he said if he would have heard him say that he would have kicked him out of the house.
I have no problem being called an [bleep], as I definately can be but being called that by a 14 year old punk kid and having him drop a F bomb on me makes me want to teach him a lesson. If he wants to talk like an adult, should he be treated by an adult? I'm not saying whoop his ass, but I would like to THROW him out of the house... Would that be out of line?
Thanks! Haven't read the whole thread but I would grab him by the ear and trot him out the door . Treat him just like the punk he is...
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Oh, dear. Compared to TRH?
Hey, you wish you compared to me.
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One of the 14 year old boys than told me (I'm 25), in a serious voice "[bleep] you!" I was astounded by this and wanted to grab his long ass hair and throw him out of the house...
That little SOB would have been out of my house so fast he wouldn't have had time to say "You can't". After his feet hit the earth again he would have had an understanding he was never welcome back in my house.
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seriously in my house or not i dont call someone a [bleep] and expect them to shut up and take it.......as the oldest sibling growing up in the house(had an older half brother that never lived with us) just cause i turned 21 didnt mean i was an adult of the house to my sisters and brothers friends.....
my brother is 9 years younger than me and had i at 25 walked in and told one of his buddies a [bleep] in my brothers room and they not told me to [bleep] off i would have lil respect for the punks....i challenged his manhood and he pushed back its to be expected as a friends older brother...
the only [bleep] up thing is the comment to your mom and that should be handled by your brother not you, if your brother aint ready to step up and take care of the issue your brother needs the arse whooping not the kid.....
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I love threads like this. They can go either way and everyone has an opinion. I will share mine.
I have known Casey for about 4 years now. He's not a small guy and by no way a bully. He likes to joke and he sometimes calls it like he sees it. Not the most tactful guy, but you know what he means when he says it.
His LEO experience called into this thread I can only say this. The guy knows his stuff, presents himself very respectable and is a very good LEO. I am glad that I occasionally get to deal with him while at work so that when his character gets called into question I can vouch for him.
I think many people are missing the point. I might be completely wrong on this but reading what I read I can only try to understand what he is getting at.
I think he is pissed that this 14 year old kid told him to F off in his parents home. Who cares if he told him F off, but he did so where he grew up and thats the issue. Furthermore he told his mama that her boy is a azzhole. Using that language infront of anyone's mama is a no no. We all know that.
Maybe if the kid told him that outside or somewhere other than inside the house, this thread wouldn't have been posted. Maybe if the kid didn't go to Casey's mama and use azzhole this thread might not have been poseted. I don't know but can only speculate.
There is a thing called respect in someone elses house and the 14 year old kid didn't show it in the OP's parents house. That is the issue. Maybe the brother shoulda said "hey watch yourself" to his friend or said "hey leave us alone" to the OP. But he didn't. Maybe the kid shoulda been thrown out of the house when he talked to mama like he did and maybe got his butt kicked too.
We all know how 14 year old kids can be. They can be jerks. Especially when they think they can be tough. That still is no reason to back talk someone in another persons house. We can expect some kids to say that, but I don't expect that from my bro's friends. I'd be pi$$ed too.
Plus if I caught my bro or nephew jamming out to kesha I'd question there sexual orientation too. Have any of you heard her music?
Again there is no right or wrong to this topic, but I would say no one disrespects my mom much less in her own house. No matter if I started it or not.
I think Casey is right to be mad about this if I am understanding it correctly that the lanuage isn't the issue but where it happened and to who it happened to.
Hell we all have been talked crap to, But I've never had anyone talk crap to my mom. What would you guys do if someone went and started using bad language to your mom?
So I gotta go with Casey on this one if I am understanding it like I explained. If its not like I think and explained, then I might have to re-evaluate the situation. Little bro shoulda stood up for both sides tho.
14 yo or not you don't step up to someones mom. That's just asking for trouble. Good thing Casey is 25 and not 17.
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Maybe he should act 25 not 17.
Also, my mom lives in the real world and if I was being an azzhole and someone called me on it, 14-years-old or not, she'd laugh and probably agree.
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Alright...here is my 2 cents...as much as you would like to bitch slap the crap out of the little punk, don't! He would send you to jail faster than you say boo! I would just inform this little POS if his attitude/foul mouth continues in your house, he can leave! I am dealing with kinda the same thing, only the POS I am dealing with this kid that is a wanna be gangster...wearing the colors, clothes, general bad attitude and refers to my step daughter as "his bitch" ! I just about flippin killed his the first time he called her this! After he said this I told him he better not EVER call her that again! He told me he would call her what ever he wanted, I didn't have any say in the matter, I was only the stepfather! Holy crap! That just came out of this kids mouth?????? Really??? I told him to get his skinny POS ass out of my house, otherwise I was going to have the cops escort his ass out! He has not come back! So resist breaking this kid you are dealing with in half, its not worth it! Good luck!
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refers to my step daughter as "his bitch" If your step-daughter allows this, it sounds like you have TWO problems on your hands (him AND her).....
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Yea, I know she thinks its cool to be his "bitch"! Mom is livid!
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Alright...here is my 2 cents...as much as you would like to bitch slap the crap out of the little punk, don't! He would send you to jail faster than you say boo! I would just inform this little POS if his attitude/foul mouth continues in your house, he can leave! I am dealing with kinda the same thing, only the POS I am dealing with this kid that is a wanna be gangster...wearing the colors, clothes, general bad attitude and refers to my step daughter as "his bitch" ! I just about flippin killed his the first time he called her this! After he said this I told him he better not EVER call her that again! He told me he would call her what ever he wanted, I didn't have any say in the matter, I was only the stepfather! Holy crap! That just came out of this kids mouth?????? Really??? I told him to get his skinny POS ass out of my house, otherwise I was going to have the cops escort his ass out! He has not come back! So resist breaking this kid you are dealing with in half, its not worth it! Good luck! I feel for you, wouldn't want to be in your shoes!!!!
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Alright...here is my 2 cents...as much as you would like to bitch slap the crap out of the little punk, don't! He would send you to jail faster than you say boo! I would just inform this little POS if his attitude/foul mouth continues in your house, he can leave! I am dealing with kinda the same thing, only the POS I am dealing with this kid that is a wanna be gangster...wearing the colors, clothes, general bad attitude and refers to my step daughter as "his bitch" ! I just about flippin killed his the first time he called her this! After he said this I told him he better not EVER call her that again! He told me he would call her what ever he wanted, I didn't have any say in the matter, I was only the stepfather! Holy crap! That just came out of this kids mouth?????? Really??? I told him to get his skinny POS ass out of my house, otherwise I was going to have the cops escort his ass out! He has not come back! So resist breaking this kid you are dealing with in half, its not worth it! Good luck! been in my girls lives since they were 4 and 7, they will be 13 and 16 in a few months.....only time i use "step" is help ppl figure out how im 29 and have a 16 year old..... quite frankly that boy would be fair game.... and as the other poster said the girl is part of the problem for allowing it.....
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I am glad that I occasionally get to deal with him while at work so that when his character gets called into question I can vouch for him.
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How often do you find yourself doing that?
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Actually quite a bit.
at least in my presence he has shown himself to be savvy, understanding, helpful and proper when dealing with people. He has always handled himself like he was supposed to. At least from what I have seen.
Again I don't defend Casey just going by what I have seen and what I know of him and what people say about him at work.
Anyone that thinks He would actually lay his hands on a 14yo is crazy. He said he felt or wanted to or somewhere along those lines, not that he would. He's not stupid. Why ruin a good job over a punk and a few words?
Casey is just venting and showing his aggrivation over disrespect. and asking us what we would do or handle it.
BTW I doubt anyone ever bullied him as a kid. He is over 6 ft and weighed over 250 based on my assessment when I first met him. I doubt anyone wanted to F with him in school.
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I love threads like this. They can go either way and everyone has an opinion. I will share mine.
I have known Casey for about 4 years now. He's not a small guy and by no way a bully. He likes to joke and he sometimes calls it like he sees it. Not the most tactful guy, but you know what he means when he says it.
His LEO experience called into this thread I can only say this. The guy knows his stuff, presents himself very respectable and is a very good LEO. I am glad that I occasionally get to deal with him while at work so that when his character gets called into question I can vouch for him.
I think many people are missing the point. I might be completely wrong on this but reading what I read I can only try to understand what he is getting at.
I think he is pissed that this 14 year old kid told him to F off in his parents home. Who cares if he told him F off, but he did so where he grew up and thats the issue. Furthermore he told his mama that her boy is a azzhole. Using that language infront of anyone's mama is a no no. We all know that.
Maybe if the kid told him that outside or somewhere other than inside the house, this thread wouldn't have been posted. Maybe if the kid didn't go to Casey's mama and use azzhole this thread might not have been poseted. I don't know but can only speculate.
There is a thing called respect in someone elses house and the 14 year old kid didn't show it in the OP's parents house. That is the issue. Maybe the brother shoulda said "hey watch yourself" to his friend or said "hey leave us alone" to the OP. But he didn't. Maybe the kid shoulda been thrown out of the house when he talked to mama like he did and maybe got his butt kicked too.
We all know how 14 year old kids can be. They can be jerks. Especially when they think they can be tough. That still is no reason to back talk someone in another persons house. We can expect some kids to say that, but I don't expect that from my bro's friends. I'd be pi$$ed too.
Plus if I caught my bro or nephew jamming out to kesha I'd question there sexual orientation too. Have any of you heard her music?
Again there is no right or wrong to this topic, but I would say no one disrespects my mom much less in her own house. No matter if I started it or not.
I think Casey is right to be mad about this if I am understanding it correctly that the lanuage isn't the issue but where it happened and to who it happened to.
Hell we all have been talked crap to, But I've never had anyone talk crap to my mom. What would you guys do if someone went and started using bad language to your mom?
So I gotta go with Casey on this one if I am understanding it like I explained. If its not like I think and explained, then I might have to re-evaluate the situation. Little bro shoulda stood up for both sides tho.
14 yo or not you don't step up to someones mom. That's just asking for trouble. Good thing Casey is 25 and not 17.
Kique
I guess my problem is that at 51 I still tend to see 14 and 25, as both "kids". I'm thinking at 35 said OP will be able to handle such a dumb situation better. Recognizing he gave the kid a hard time, how hard would it be to have just made the point, "look kid, I guess I had that coming, but I can't allow that type of profanity in my parents house, got it?"
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Bottom-line here Coues, you may or may not care what I think, but here it is...You get a pass from me totally on Kique's word that you are okay. I think the situation is kinda messed up, but if Kique, whom I respect, says you are good, then that's how it is.
I don't know Kique that well, but I like the way he's always handled himself here.
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At your age you should not have said anything to the kid. On the other hand I see no equal playing field between a 25 and 14 your old. The kid is disrespectful and should have just taken your ribbing in stride. The comment to your mother just confirms his bad attitude. The bottom line is that it is your parents problem, not yours. Forget about it and move on. Every since the courts and schools have tried to stop child abuse kids have gotten bolder and bolder because they know that an adult can't do anything with them. I am certainly not in favor of child abuse but the attempts to control it have created a new set of problems with many kids out of control and the system helpless to do anything with them. My sister-in-law teaches school and has to deal with this age group every day. To say that it is a challenge would be an understatement. My brother-in-law works security at a large school in Texas and some of the stories he tells confirm the fact that attitude and behavior among kids that age is generally pretty poor at best. Let it go though partner, the problem is waaaaaay too big for a simple on-line-forum solution.
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