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Originally Posted by Barkoff
Mayorga, another punk. Only fighter I have ever seen enter the ring smoking a cigarette.


That's his shtick.

If you want to think he's a punk, please do so for legitmate reasons. Don't worry, there's plenty of them.

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Originally Posted by Stan V

You need to learn why he's become what he is, it's one hail of a story. I've got my 18 month old grand baby with me and I can't imagine teaching her what baby Tony Ayala was taught......several family members and 'friends' of Tony deserve life behind bars.


Lots of people have chitty childhoods, and they don't turn into rapists. This whole, "Well he had a bad childhood, that's why he turned out the way he did" really grates my nerves. He did what he did because he was a horny little bastard who thought he could take what he wanted by force.

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Originally Posted by WheelchairBandit
Originally Posted by Stan V

You need to learn why he's become what he is, it's one hail of a story. I've got my 18 month old grand baby with me and I can't imagine teaching her what baby Tony Ayala was taught......several family members and 'friends' of Tony deserve life behind bars.


Lots of people have chitty childhoods, and they don't turn into rapists. This whole, "Well he had a bad childhood, that's why he turned out the way he did" really grates my nerves. He did what he did because he was a horny little bastard who thought he could take what he wanted by force.

Brian.


You obviously read sympathy for Ayala in what I posted and you just as obviously missed what I said.....if you want to guarantee a monster start training early. You'll have one. I suppose I do have sympathy for babies exposed to such.

You haven't heard about the abuse or the heroin he grew up in, did you know he kicked Welterweight Pipino Cuevas's azz at age 15 while sparring the much older Cuevas?......Ayala is a San Antone legend.

Ayala could have had it all, but he earned jail. He was in the same class as Hearns, Leornard, Hagler and even Duran. One of those once in a generation fighters maybe. I think he would have kicked Hagler's azz. To bad he's as dangerous out of the ring as he was in it......


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He would have had some real work kickin Haglar's azz.

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Didn't read all the posts, but no clips on the number 1 KO champ, Archie Moore. Great video.

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If he ever gets out of jail he will be back in again no doudt.No woman is safe around this guy.

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real dirt bag blamed everyone and everything for his problems but himself


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Wheelchairbandit, thanks for the Archie Moore video. I think he was the greatest of all time.

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Originally Posted by WheelchairBandit
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Mayorga, another punk. Only fighter I have ever seen enter the ring smoking a cigarette.


That's his shtick.

If you want to think he's a punk, please do so for legitmate reasons. Don't worry, there's plenty of them.

Brian.


I understand that, only a punk would set such an example.







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Drank a 40 in between rounds a guy told me.

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Originally Posted by Barkoff

I understand that, only a punk would set such an example.


Why does a boxer have to set an example? He's a prize fighter for crying out loud. He ain't the Pope.

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Originally Posted by luke
Wheelchairbandit, thanks for the Archie Moore video. I think he was the greatest of all time.


One of the greatest. The guy lost to a lot of bums in his career, mostly due to the fact that he fought 3 to 4 times a month for years and had some off nights.

Great fighter though and a swell guy out of the ring. A very good coach as well.

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Think Floyd would have beat Archie in his prime?

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Yes. Archie shouldn't have been fighting at heavyweight to begin with. He had trouble with the power of a lot of light heavies.

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juan manuel marquez and michael katsidis rematch


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Aren't they fighting for the first time tonight?

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yeah your right i misread the fight description


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