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When the Howa/Vanguard topic was discussed previously on here it was mentioned that the Vanguard is made from a slightly different type of stainless steel, one which is more rust resistant.
I have a Howa SS with the Hogue stock, and it shoots very well indeed but its not very rust resistant in the wet weather. In fact my rifles with blued barrel / actions are actually more rust resistant..
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Howa's are made from stainress steel.......
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Howa's are made from stainress steel....... ???
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Just to be clear, I have a Howa in stainless steel and I have noticed its not particularly rust resistant when compared to say a Ruger M77 Allweather or a couple of blued CM rifles I also own..
As I said, apparently Weatherby specified a different grade of SS for their Vanguards and its supposed to be more rust resistant. Its not a huge issue, but were I buying another 1500 rifle, it might sway me to go the Vanguard route...
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Didn't weatherby stop making stainless vanguards?
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If you are willing to take the Vanguard instead of a Howa Academy keeps the blued ones in stock for $399 year round and normally will put them on sale (at least here in TX they do) in the spring after hunting season around February each year.
I bought one last year for $299 in February.
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no they have not stopped making them permanently. just catching up to blued model orders, so they put the SS versions on hold for now.
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Pete E. - I own Stainless HOWA's, Vanguards, and Ruger All Weather's while living in South Florida. While not "rust proof" they are "rust restistant" to a far greater degree than blued chrome moly steel. Despite the specific SS formula they do need a rub-down, every now and again , with an oily rag. When Hurricane "Andrew" blew thru here in August 1992 I was without power/AC for a very long time. You could watch the mold grow on leather (and bread), rust on steel. IF intended for use in the Southeast, I use SS no matter the formula. Believe this true for any humid clime i.e. Alaska coastal, Everglades, etc. Regards, Homesteader.
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Pete E. - I own Stainless HOWA's, Vanguards, and Ruger All Weather's while living in South Florida. While not "rust proof" they are "rust restistant" to a far greater degree than blued chrome moly steel. Despite the specific SS formula they do need a rub-down, every now and again , with an oily rag. When Hurricane "Andrew" blew thru here in August 1992 I was without power/AC for a very long time. You could watch the mold grow on leather (and bread), rust on steel. IF intended for use in the Southeast, I use SS no matter the formula. Believe this true for any humid clime i.e. Alaska coastal, Everglades, etc. Regards, Homesteader. Bugger! Perhaps I was sold an unblued CM in error??  The only other thing I can attribute its tendecy to rust is was to using Wipeout Patch Out and Accelerater for cleaning.. Still use it, but now wipe metal work down thats it's touched with a rag or patch covered in solvent, and then wipe over with an oily rag/patch..Patchout is supposed to contain a rust inhibitor that means you don't need to oil your barrel; with the Howa this approach was fatal! Regards, Peter
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PeteE - Thanks for your comments concerning Wipeout. Perhaps a chemical reaction between a product component and the steel. I've just recently purchased Wipeout and will pay attention for side effects when using it on the SS rifles. Presuming HOWA notified of this incident, I'd be curious about their response. Putting myself in HOWA's shoes...I would want to know about it i.e. steel not to spec. etc. You may re-call SAKO having SS issues years ago. Regards, Homesteader.
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This is making me think about going to the local big name sports store that has single .257 Bee Vanguard. Be a hard sell around here. Maybe if I was 3 $100s under the manager's nose he might move up the spring sale.
BTW to the OP. Try the vanilla Powershoks again. I didn't try them until I'd shot 100+ rounds of Fed GM and other premium ammo in my LTR. But when I did, cuz they cost $13.97 a box at Wally, they consistently put 3 in .5.
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Coldcase1984 - your idea is worth the shot. Amazing how the sight of those bills, just sooo close, exerts influence. Especially, this close to months end. Regards, Homesteader.
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Hoping to show one of those 150s to the ribcage of a whitetail this afternoon...
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The Vanguard is simply a rebadgded Howa. Made on the same line, with the same components different roll mark on the barrel is all.
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The Vanguard is simply a rebadgded Howa. Made on the same line, with the same components different roll mark on the barrel is all. There is something physically different on the Vanguard.
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At one point I believe they used different safeties but I think they use the same now. Might have been slightly different fluting on the bolt body too.
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