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Congrats to the kid. But.....why didn't they gut it in the field? Especially since the guts were coming out of the deer already.


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Originally Posted by Duquensebeer
That just shows the of some people.

The Matchking is designed to shoot paper - not whitetails.

The other thing is someone so lazy as to shoot a doe on the first day of rifle season. Shows a lot of desperation.
Not a good example to set for a young kid - run into the woods, shoot the first thing that comes along, fill the freezer and leave.
I would bet that if they would have paid their dues that doe could have easily turned into a nice buck if they would have held off shooting the first thing that came down the trail.


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Geez what a dumb azz.... The ONLY reason I'll shoot a buck... is if its a cull or it is a wall hanger. I shoot only does the rest of the time. I see a wall hanger about once every 5 years or so..... maybe....

WTF is wrong with shooting early? I've shot a doe just as it was legal light and still watched deer till almost noon taking pictures and such...

What I can't stand personally is folks shoot a buck, just to say they shot a buck. WTF a huge waste is that? Let him grow up for God's sake. My personal rule is at least 6.5 years old...before I'll take a buck.


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Originally Posted by rost495
What I can't stand personally is folks shoot a buck, just to say they shot a buck. WTF a huge waste is that? Let him grow up for God's sake. My personal rule is at least 6.5 years old...before I'll take a buck.


No offense but in a lot of areas here you may only see one deer. It could be a buck and a small one.


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Congratulations to the young man on his first deer. Great job on a clean one shot kill.

I hang most of my deer before gutting as I usually hunt in my back yard and don't want the guts stinking up the place and running off the other deer. Sure are lots of deer in Texas. wink


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Originally Posted by Duquensebeer
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The other thing is someone so lazy as to shoot a doe on the first day of rifle season.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...6/Re_First_Blood_with_my_760#Post4622226


Duquensebeer, here is a pic of you from a previous post above. Seems you were lazy and had lots of desperation also.

I'd say about 60lbs or so?



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That deer was shot on a extended season Saturday - was a one and you are done deal.

The doe the little kid shot was on the very first day of the season. Even with the lack of deer as a whole in the State of Pennsylvania - there is no reason for someone to have to fill their tags 7:15 Am on the first day.


No, no difference than the one you seem to be making up in your alter reality.

You assume a little too much and seem to lack in reading comprehension.



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Duquensebeer, that is one of the lowest comments I have ever seen on this site. You are the worst example of a hunter and everything this site isn't about.I am offended that you are a member Douchebag... Congratulations to the kid for getting a deer!

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Nice job by the boy and hats off to the old man for making time to teach him and take him hunting...many boys never get that chance. Duquesnebeer is misguided and should think before making commentary. High 5 the boy when you see him and pat Pops on the back for passing it on!


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Originally Posted by Duquensebeer
Originally Posted by FullMetalParka
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The other thing is someone so lazy as to shoot a doe on the first day of rifle season.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...6/Re_First_Blood_with_my_760#Post4622226


Duquensebeer, here is a pic of you from a previous post above. Seems you were lazy and had lots of desperation also.

I'd say about 60lbs or so?



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That deer was shot on a extended season Saturday - was a one and you are done deal.

The doe the little kid shot was on the very first day of the season. Even with the lack of deer as a whole in the State of Pennsylvania - there is no reason for someone to have to fill their tags 7:15 Am on the first day.
I would think that after getting lambasted for 5 pages by virtually everyone that replied to your post, you'd SHUT YOUR TRAP! What an asinine thing to say. Did YOU pass up does to get your first deer? I'm guessing not, and boy, that pic of yours, that's a real trophy. Don't you EVER address another young hunter this way. First of all, you have no right whatsoever to call this kid lazy! He made a good shot, the bullet did it's job, and that's the bottom line. Lay off the beer for a while and apologize to this kid and pray to God that you NEVER cross paths with another Campfire member that remembers your post, you drunken loudmouthed SOB!

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duq sure wouldn't like to hunt with me very much. My first deer was a big whitetail doe, and I'm the guy that kills the first ADULT deer that I can get. I'm a meat hunter with two kids and they're THRILLED when I bring in a big doe. I've killed some nice bucks in my days, but only because they were the first adult deer I came across. My only question is why did the doe get hung up before it was gutted? I've never hung up any big game animal without gutting
it first.
Are there lots of guys that do this or am I in the minority?


They butcher deer themselves. So instead of gutting the deer, they just debone it. They say there is no need to puncture the gut and get bacteria everywhere. I always gutted my deer as well, until I met this family a few years back. Now I to no longer gut my deer. Much, much easier.

Thanks for the info. I've heard of doing it with larger animals or for packing them out miles from the road, but never when having access to a place to hang them. To each their own, the important thing is that he had a successful experience, cleanly killed a big doe, and put meat in the freezer. Duqqiebeer should just keep his head back where it was.

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Sent him a PM to make sure he got my sentiments on this. 'Wonder how many will put this azz on ignore. I'm waiting to hear back from him before I bestow that title on him.


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gophergunner...don't get too jammed up over this ass-clown. He ought to know by this point in time exactly what the rest of us think of his foolish words. God really does have a sense of humor!


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Originally Posted by LBP

I hang most of my deer before gutting as I usually hunt in my back yard and don't want the guts stinking up the place and running off the other deer. Sure are lots of deer in Texas. wink


I've never heard of that practice other than from folks on here. Must be regional. Guts sure don't scare away deer around here. Shot a buck one morning a few years back. Then shot a doe sniffing his gut pile. Not the first story I've heard of that either.

Deer are probably more skiddish from the human scent in the area of the guts than the guts themselves.


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Originally Posted by gophergunner
I Don't you EVER address another young hunter this way. First of all, you have no right whatsoever to call this kid lazy! He made a good shot, the bullet did it's job, and that's the bottom line. Lay off the beer for a while and apologize to this kid and pray to God that you NEVER cross paths with another Campfire member that remembers your post, you drunken loudmouthed SOB!


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Tzone, your probably right. In places I've hunted where I had to field dress it didn't seem to bother the deer much. Heck,the deer at my place are not even worried about human scent. One year after an unsuccessful hunt on a friends place a few miles away I was napping in my long johns on the couch, when my wife woke me for a buck inside the back yard fence. I looked out the backdoor at a fine 8 pointer eating the lawn. I stepped onto the back porch in my long johns and shot him about 20 yards from the door. Good thing I was in great physical condition for that strenuous hunt... grin


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Originally Posted by LBP
I stepped onto the back porch in my long johns and shot him about 20 yards from the door. Good thing I was in great physical condition for that strenuous hunt... grin


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No, but thats a good idea I wish I had thought of it... whistle


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I hang most of my deer before gutting as I usually hunt in my back yard and don't want the guts stinking up the place and running off the other deer. Sure are lots of deer in Texas. wink


I've never heard of that practice other than from folks on here. Must be regional. Guts sure don't scare away deer around here. Shot a buck one morning a few years back. Then shot a doe sniffing his gut pile. Not the first story I've heard of that either.

Deer are probably more skiddish from the human scent in the area of the guts than the guts themselves.
My experience also. My brother and I had two tree stands back behind our camp. He shot a spiker at first light on the first morning. I got down and went over to see if he needed any help. I ended up climbing up in his stand and shot a 5 pint sniffing his gut pile less than an hour later.


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With all the attacks on this forum - I am going to post what I sent in private conversation to one of the morons that sent me a offline message -

You don't understand.
There are two types of people In Pennsylvania right now.
The people that complains that there is no deer and the slob hunters that goes out and shoots deer on the first day of rifle season at 7 AM.

There is two weeks of rifle season and you can shoot does any day of the week in some zones. In my zone you cannot shoot a doe until this Saturday. At the same time my zone - 2D is the largest producer of deer in the entire state - yet you must have 4 points to one antler unless you are a disabled or youth hunter.

No I do not owe this kid a apology - because it was his dad's friend who posted what a great hunter he is - and how proud of him he was that his kid schwacked a doe at first light.

You are not teaching a kid how to be a hunter when you are shooting the first deer that comes down the deer trail.
All you are doing is showing him how to be a shootist.

The only way you learn how to be a hunter is to pay your dues and spend time in the woods and when your only goal is to fill your tags as quickly as possible and leave - in my opinion - you are not a hunter.

Read my post - more then once before you jump down my back.
Read this post - more then once before you jump down my back.

I am telling you - the deer situation is bad in Pennsylvania.
It isn't that there isn't NO DEER, it's that there is a very limited amount of deer in the woods to hunt.

There are people who might only have saw one or two deer all this week, and there are people who has not seen any deer at all.

Maybe they are not good hunters - I don't know.
But my dad taught me half of what I know today and my dad hunted all day Monday and never saw a deer - which is the first time that has ever happened in his entire hunting career and he is 75 yrs old.

My one brother - I let sit in my tree stand and he came home and said he saw 11 bucks and 9 does.

My other brother sat in my favorite tree stand yesterday and shot a 7 point buck about noon when my other brother wanted to walk back to the truck to eat lunch.

Why he would want to walk back to the truck when he had a roof over his head, walls around him, a Kerosun heater to keep him warm - is beyond me.

Most hunters - and I use that term gently, hunts by their watch and not by their common sense. They look at their watch and they set dead lines, if nothing comes along by 8:30 I am going to do this, if nothing comes along by 9 AM I am going to do that.

Deer move because hunters move.
The very first deer that kid saw was probably because they were late getting into the woods and they walked right up on a deer and his dad told him to shoot it because he wanted to fill the tags and only had a limited amount of time to do so and he wanted his kid to be successful.

I hunted deer until I was 20 years old before I shot my first doe.

One reason was because you were only allowed to shoot one deer per a year and I shot a buck most years, other years I did not get a doe license and other years beyond that - I did not yet acquire the necessary skills to be a proficient hunter to be able to walk into the woods by myself and shoot a doe in the two days that the state gave you for doe season.

They are making it too easy for people to walk into the woods and just shoot everything in sight.

The Game Commission already knows that a bunch of crap is going on and the hunters are displeased with their decision to let people shoot doe's on the first day and they have toughened up the laws against poaching and illegal kills.

The Game Commission realizes that they are selling too many tags and there is too many deer being harvested and that some areas do not even have a deer anymore in the woods to hunt.

If you want deer - you have to stop shooting the doe's.
There is nothing wrong with shooting a doe, but please - don't come on here one year bragging that you shot one on opening morning at 7 AM and come on here 5 years from now and blame the PGC that there is no more deer in Pennsylvania.

The Game Commission isn't shooting them - you are!

Teach your kids to be ethical hunters - teach them to let a doe walk on the first day and be more selective on which deer you do shoot and you can create a situation where it is more enjoyable for everyone. That was the point that I was trying to make and the point that I suppose the father friend of the boy that shot the doe understood when he read my post.

There is no law that says that you can't shoot a doe at 7 AM on the first day, but why do it? Are you really teaching your kids how to be a hunter when you shoot the first legal deer that walks down the trail?

You only learn how to be a hunter by going hunting multiple times and making mistakes - that is why it is called hunting and not getting.

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You have now proven yourself to be a bigger azzhat than I previously perceived....


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