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In this thread we are witnessing the "American Way". John Burns is competing in a free market and can price his product to what ever the market will bear. It is obvious he is successful. Individuals on the fire don't own stock in his company or are on his board of directors, therefore are naive to suggest his product and price won't sell in a free market.

I applaud Burns for risk taking and swimming with the sharks in a free market.

Seriously?? That's it??

That's not what is painfully obvious.

I don't think anyone has disagreed with that.

Check his earlier posts, or his site.

Mr. Burns and Campfire crew,

I will make this simple.

Here is the "Reader's Digest" condensed version:

I have a unique pedigree as the guy behind the armorer's bench as well as behind the gun. Having spent a fair amount of time at factories like Fabrique Nationale, Knight's Armament, Remington, Colt Defense, etc, I know my way around precision equipment.

The .gov has given me the opportunity to work overseas as both an operator and the guy who maintains weapons systems from M24s, SR-25s/M110s to M249s and M203s.. I have been very fortunate to have been given this opportunity.

Here is what I am putting up on the table:

Send me one of your guns for a two week eval, along with 150 rounds. I will give it a fair and honest evaluation. I can run the gun considerably further than 1K, if that seems reasonable. Or we can set a limit if you like.

I will compare it against known equipment in my personal inventory, as well as against other known rifles belonging to other professional shooters, who will be glad to be unbiased participants. This can be done either KD range style or unknown.

I have no dog in this hunt, so a fair and honest eval will be the standard.

After the eval, I will ship it back to your FFL.

A couple of "at work" shots:















Sincerely,
MackaySagebrush

Yep, that's it. For that kind of money I could have a "REAL" custom rifle built and then put a S&B on it and have money left over. OH, yea I already did that

I see you have a top tier long range scope on that rifle.. Nice

My question remains unanswered.... what exactly are you trying to sell Burns??

Your rifle which you proclaim as THE best turn-key package and second to none..... or your delusions of grandeur that you're the best shooter there is??

While I think it's great and refreshing that you have confidence in your shooting ability, and appear willing to put it to the test (on your terms it seems), it still doesn't have squat to do with your claims regarding your product.

You running around from thread to thread pounding your chest and issuing challenges is just conveniently taking emphasis off the REAL reason I thought brought you here.... peddling your wares. You don't seem to place to same amount of confidence in your product as you do your ego.

What say you Burns???

This would seem to me to be the BEST opportunity for you to lay to rest the questions and derision that have been brought on by your claims.

He isn't interested in having his products tested against other products, he is interested in challenging someone to a shoot off that he thinks that he can beat.

I'd be willing to wager a health some that David Tubbs would out shoot him with his system and then switch systems and out shoot him again.

Of course this would only prove that Tubbs is a better shot, which I believe that he is. But if the shooter is taken out of the equation, then the equipment would have to stand on it's on.

A 4.5X14 Leupy ain't the best poor light long range hunting scope out there and that can easily be demonstrated

If he wants to prove how great his rifle is then he should have someone that doesn't shoot long range for a living use one of his rifles in a competition.

His rifles wiegh 10 pounds with a light wieght Leupy. I have a 300 Mag with a S&B that's lighter than that

Exactly the point I've been alluding...

50 frickin' pages!!!???

Did a shootin' match occur?

Lol......I don't believe so.

Did she sell any rifles?.................

She thinks she did! That's the best part!

R.

Don't think so,and the one person who has been called out/challenged hasn't even posted on this thread. 50 pages means everyone is couped up inside with nothing to do.
Can someone post pics of some hot chicks?

But as consolation, she supposedly received an untold number of adulating and adoring PM's congratulating on standing up to the big, bad, mean, foul mouthed bully Big Stick.