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You're forgetting it's four ounce gloves in MMA, and the vast amount of shots landed are power shots to the head.

I can run off a list a mile long of punch drunk MMA fighters - Liddell, Gary Goodridge, Kazushi Sakuraba, Wanderlei Silva, Don Frye, Matt Lindland, and Jens Pulver all immediatley come to mind.

The reason boxing has more punch drunk fighters is due to the length of time boxing has been a major sport. MMA has only been around in a sanctioned form for 10 years, and has only been popular for 5 years.

Brian.

I don't see how it's possible for cage fighters to have the head injuries boxers do....they wrestle more than punch.

Apparantly, you don't watch much MMA.

Brian.

I really can't stand it.

Let's keep it that way.

Brian.

I can see why some would like to watch the unathletic wrestle on the ground like high school kids.....some just can't box.

HeHe. Would that be non-athletic?

Yeah, every time I watch Georges St. Pierre nail a superman jab to leg kick combo, I think "Man, this guy isn't athletic at all."

Brian.

What was that athletic Japanese dude that fought Ali on his back....sort of sums it all up.

Antonio Inoki, who wasn't a fighter but a pro wrestler.

That was supposed to be a pro wrestling match, but a bunch of boxing scribes got on Ali for defaming the good name of boxing by doing pro wrestling when he was still heavyweight champion, so he made serious rule changes literaly hours before the event. The fight would be real, only Inoki couldn't go for any takedowns, and could only kick while one knee was on the ground. They thought it would force Inoki into a boxing match. They were wrong.

Brian.

Well, I think that farce was more exciting than today's cage fights.....of course, Ali was involved.

When the goal is who can get to the ground the quickest it loses the appeal of a skilled sport. Trip, fall and have someone jump on you ain't skill.....boxing gets a count, or standing 8 and the fight resumes on your feet.

Dempsey would be a champion cage fighter.

No. Not even close.



You should stop talking about MMA, because you obviously don't know jack about it, and it's beginning to become embarrasing.



Well, he was one of the earliest proponents of cross training in multiple martial arts, and even wrote a book on the subject.

Brian.

I know enough about it to know it's boring.....unless you're a wrestling fan. Maybe if they start jumping from the top rope...er, pole...I'd watch.

How much do those top MMA fighters make per fight?

This thread is the sad reality of boxing; the sport is dead. As soon as you bring up boxing, the discussion immediately turns to MMA. America has spoken and MMA is the fighting sport. Boxing will always have a devoted following (me) and MMA is the fighting sport of the future like it or not (and I don't care for it).

Well, of course you're wrong....we need a couple of great fighters in heavy divisions. Pacman can't carry the sport....a great heavyweight can.

Depends on the fighter. A big star like Georges St. Pierre or Brock Lesnar is going to bring in around $500,000 as their base pay, and then on top of that they get a cut of the pay per view (usually $2-$4 per purchase over a certain buyrate level). Then they get sponsorships, which sometimes can add up to be more than their base pay.

But your average guy just breaking into the big show is going to make between 5 and 5 ($5,000 to show, $5,000 to win) to 12 and 12, depending on what kind of resume and name value they bring. Your kind of mid-tier guy is going to make around 30 and 30. You can double that if he's a promising heavyweight.

Brian.

Actually, MMA has kept boxing alive. People like me who never would have watched boxing otherwise, suddenly became interested because I started watching MMA and enjoyed the striking aspect of it. So I started watching boxing and kick boxing. I know a LOT of other MMA fans who now follow both those sports closely.

It's all fight sport and one supports the other. Heck, MMA has kept scholastic wrestling alive.

Brian.

I'd rather watch Pacman than any heavyweight.

Period.

Brian.

On a boxing note, last night I watched the replay of last Saturday night's Khan-Maidana fight. Quite entertaining; Maidana was just one punch shy of winning it, and it's too bad he couldn't find that last good one. He was a warrior, and Khan will be hurting for a month.

I didn't catch that fight due to the Georges St. Pierre vs. Josh Koscheck card being on, but I heard it was a war and a half. I'll need to check it out online.

Lotta fight of the year talk floating around after that fight.

Brian.