Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Opinions on the 6.5 Creedmoor......let hear em!

That's an issue, alright.

John, I think that the 6.5-06 kind of negates the reason for the existense of either the 25-06 or the 270. There is a much wider choice of slugs for the 6.5. If only old what's his name had touted the 6.5-06 instead of the 270 I think things would be far different now. I happen to like anything with 6.5 (264) attached to it. Awesome with 160gr slugs...

nsaqam,

If 150 fps is significant, and more velocity always better, then why not go all the way to the .264 WM and get 250-300 fps over the 6.5x55? The .264 will fit in any bolt action the 6.5-06 will.

GSSP,

Good info and thanks much. Always looking for other 6.5 options and this one has my interest.

Best Regards

John Boy,

I have heard the same "wider choice" thing about various other bore diameters, including 7mm.

I just looked up 6.5mm and .270 bullets on the MidwayUSA site. Now, they may not list every bullet in the world, but they do list most, including Woodleighs. There are 69 6.5mm bullets, ranging in weight from 85-160 grains. There are 80 .270 bullets, ranging in weight from 85-180 grains.

I've killed quite a few big game animals with .25, 6.5 and .270 rifles, the cartridges including the .250 Savage, .257 Roberts, .257 Roberts AI, .25-06, .257 Weatherby, 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer, 6.5 Creedmoor, .260 Remington, 6.5-06, .264 Winchester Magnum, 6.8 SPC, .270 Winchester, .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby Magnum. The list of bullets used is much longer, of course.

They all kill "awesome" when the bullet goes in the right place, at any range where the bullet can be put in the right place.

The truth is that all of this thread is more of the same Campfire-dance around really tiny ballistic gack.

John,
You are absolutely correct. That's why my 22-250 loaded with 80 gr A-Max's works. But the ballistic gack (trivia, tripe etc) is what makes this place fun. Where else can you go and have such great conversations with notable gun scribes and knowledgable shooters? By the way have you heard of the 29.5 GACK, I heard it rivals the 29 BS with more bullet choices to boot......

My point is that the 6.5x55 is neither a SA cartridge nor a LA cartridge.

If the exact same ballistic performance can be gotten from a .260 housed in a SA what advantage does the Swede give me housed in a LA?

While the "advantages" of a SA are debatable (to me at least) they are still measurable.
Not so the difference in the ballistics of the .260 v. the Swede.

John Boy,

Yep, where else can we get gacked so well!

nsaqam,

Whatever--though I also fail to see any real disadvantage of a 6.5x55 on a standard 98 action. Or, especially, a medium-length action such as a Mexican Mauser or "short" Montana 1999.

Some shooters would even argue that there's an advantage to the 6.5x55 over the .260 in a .30-06 length action, since like the 6.5 Creedmoor in a 2.8" magazine, any bullet can be seated out to touch the lands.

You still haven't answered why anybody would choose the 6.5-06 in a .30-06-length action when the .264 provides even more velocity.

Or is this thread turning into a 6.5-06 love fest?

John -do you know of any neato light rigs coming out this year in the 6.5 Creed?

Dober


(side note, years gone back when I had one of the execs from Nozler out for a bruin hunt I tried to get them to begin listing in their manuals along with BC and SD the BG quotient..grin)

Spoil Sport - You are letting logic get in the way of dreaming. My wildest dream 6.5 wildcat cartridge will beat the 264 Winchester Magnum any day, and even more so in the evening after 3-4 Jack Daniels.

The exact same LA housing the Swede (boltface, length, feedrails) can house the 6.5-06 but cannot house the .264 WM.

If it were me choosing a 6.5mm rifle to build I'd likely go with a 26" 6.5x68 Schuler pushing 140's out at 3200 or so.

I dunno of any offhand. Maybe if the long-barrel Hawkeyes sell, Ruger will make some smaller rifles. The round would sure work well in the Kimber Montana!

And what did the Nosler exec say about that? And who was he?

His name is Paul Coil he was their CFO for a while if I recall right. He got a kick out of the fact that I shot bruins with a 22/250 and chucks with my .340.

Dober

nsaqam...

Given the need for a LH action, I think your arguments make sense. As I've said, I chose 6.5x55 simply because I had the dies (and a Yugo Mauser) lying about. I think I would be just as happy with a 260 or the Creedmoor.

There are a lot of personal preferences in firearms that I don't understand. Never liked the AR15, don't own a magnum rifle except my 357 lever action, and don't understand what people see in the 22 Mag. But I also know that other people feel very differently, and, thankfully, there are abundant choices for them in the marketplace. I am not diminished in the least because someone really likes something that I don't.

Sure it's a 6.5-06 love fest, I have one. Although, I have this deep need for a 264 WM.

What do you use your 50 BMG on??? grin....

Mark,

I know Paul very well. He doesn't work for Nosler anymore, and I kinda lost track of him. But would get a kick out of that!

nsaquam,

Any action capable of holding the 6.5-06 is also available in a magnum version that would hold the .264. Some are even easily convertible. My .338 Winchester is on an FN action that was originally a .30-06. Took less than $50 to convert it.

And the .264 is safely capable of 3200 with a 140, using at least 3-4 of today's powders.

You're giving me ideas. I have a push feed M70 in 264 that's been sitting. I'm thinking of the 100 gr. TTSX at as close to warp nine as I can get.