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After lugging my 12lb .220 AI all day in deep to really deep snow and through hills I need to see some pics and specs of walking varminters. smile I love the .220 AI but it needs a lighter friend in the safe for walking days like this. Iam wiped sleep

Iam just looking for ideas as I have some rifles to finish up before I start more but I would sure like to see what you guys have built.

What would you guys consider as the largest contour to finish at 25" and still maintain a walkabout rifle.

So if you don't mind I would love to see pics and specs of your walking varmint rifles. I don't own one but will be uploading a pic of the 12lb hog and one of todays unlucky coyotes in a bit here. (I figure if Iam asking for pics I should post one)


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Can't imagine why you'd need to run 25" of barrel.

Top is a 243 with a 22" tube and bottom is a 6mm/223 with 20" tube. Regardless you can do a like build an come in at the same weight, more or less. The 6mm223 with 3-9x is 6 3/4 pounds.

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On a mini mauser, 22-250 w/scope, all up at 5 3/4 lbs.
I agree, why 25 in?

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22-250AI with 23" #3 Douglas. Vanguard action has some weight so it's not super light but well balanced. Prolly a 8 pound rig but I don't have scales so cant know for sure. Very handy huntable rifle for these parts.

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model 7, .223 factory barrel...because it shoots too well to replace, action worked over by Mickey, tan cerracote, tan and black stock, stock painting and cerracote by Mickey.

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thanks so far guys. I was thinking 25" because I was planning a .22-250 AI and most of what I had read was if your going to go shorter than 25" you might aswell just go regular .22-250. Havent put too much thought into it yet.

Heres a photo of today.

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A 22" 22/250AI beats a 22" 22/250, not to mention the trim factor.

I've never been in a situation where I thought 'Damn, I would have made that shot if I had an extra 2" of barrel'.....

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Best feelin rifle I've put together is this 250AI. #1 Rock cut at 22" 1" shank droped in a MR stock. Don't have weight on this either but it handles like a dream. Will be copying this blueprint in 243AI.

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A 'yote with a 21" tubed rifle that weighs 6 pounds 10 ounces. It was July and I was hunting with swim trunks on.......

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
A 22" 22/250AI beats a 22" 22/250, not to mention the trim factor.

I've never been in a situation where I thought 'Damn, I would have made that shot if I had an extra 2" of barrel'.....

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The trim factor is why my .220 is a AI. I shoot alot and I hate trimming. I agree on the barrel length but it's hard for me to wrap my head around a varmint rifle that isn't heavy and long.

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22" 22-250AI wouldn't spook me much. Mine just wouldn't balance with the long shank barrel.....I don't think. Some smiths tell you that a 1 1/2" is needed but that aint so. Done two that way and last three have gone under a inch.



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My coyote rig.

.243 AI with a factory bbl cut to 23"

Right now its got a Leupold 3.5x10 and DD's (the scope will soon have turrets installed)

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We are talking coyote rifles. If I was running something strictly for plunking gophers all day, something with a little weight wouldn't be a bad thing.

Can't imagine running a hog for a yotes. Build to balance and it all flows together.

Didn't have much problems with this wolf and a 20" tube rifle that weighs 7 pounds. Course it was from a kneeling position at 150 yards...

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Cool paint job. I could try that but it wouldn't turn out like that. Well done.



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I've been a bit assertive about controlling the yote population from time to time. Way back when I built a 6/06 for most of my work and have never regretted it. Mines about 9 lbs or so and if I wanted a lighter yote rifle heres about what I'd do.

700 short action
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23" barrel that mics .62" at the mzl
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Most likely I'd shoot two bullets, the 55 NBT for my short pelt season (about 6 or 7 weeks here) and I'd use the 95 NBT or the 105 AMax for the rest of the time.

Most likely scope it with a 3-9 or 3-10 Leo with either dotz and or a M1 on top stuck in Talley's.

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This is my dedicated Coyote calling rifle, it's a Sako A7 243. They can be had fairly cheap, mine came out the box at 5-pounds 14-ounces, and it shoots insanely accurate tiny groups. I cannot think of a better lightweight coyote rig for the money.

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I have a stock 700 in .220 Swift with 24" heavy barrel and Leupold 6x20. It weighs 10lbs without sling and ammo.

I'm thinking going the AI route. What are the advantages/disadvantages?


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Nice rig, I've got a T3 243 coyote rig, but haven't painted it yet.

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SH Wow you have quite a few nice rifles. How many do you have? What cartridges?

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