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6x36 for 2 reasons. 1st your rifle your putting it on and 2nd the 6x42 isnt worth the additional cost. Different strokes. But absolute statements pertaining to everyone are mostly not true. Just cause you're too cheap to pay another $100 for a better scope doesn't mean everybody else is the same way.
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I figure if I'm going to spend $300 anyway, the difference between $400 and even $500 is immaterial when considered in light of the overall investment. If I want to save money, I'll buy M8 6x42's for $225 and M8 6x36's for $160. They sell for that money all the time in the classifieds.
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....... and I insist on full nightime performance, I prefer the 6X42. E That's funny right there.
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You are going to have to explain to me why I can't shoot in self defense unless the animal or even a human being is so close I can "point and shoot."
Using a scope in a hurry at 10 feet is simply not necessary. At that range, I know from experience that I can effectively hip shoot.
I have used my 6X42 in the dark. I spotted a suspicious looking animal body form some 125-150 yds. out long before legal light a couple of seasons ago. Turned out to be a cow elk. Using the scope, I found a total of 26 animals in the open in front of me. They never knew I was there. E
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That is pretty funny coming from a guy that can't tell the difference between an optic with a 5mm exit pupil and one with a 7mm exit pupil. Maybe you can't, but I can. E
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I have used my 6X42 in the dark. E If it was dark, what light did the scope transmit ? Once again a never ending source of entertainment. Thanks
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That is pretty funny coming from a guy that can't tell the difference between an optic with a 5mm exit pupil and one with a 7mm exit pupil. Maybe you can't, but I can. E The difference is 2mm. An example that I have and use, unlike you, are these two bino's in 6x30 and 7x50. Identical optical quality and a huge difference in low light which is something you fantasize about. ![[Linked Image]](http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r74/RDFinn/0021-1.jpg)
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You are going to have to explain to me why I can't shoot in self defense unless the animal or even a human being is so close I can "point and shoot."
Using a scope in a hurry at 10 feet is simply not necessary. At that range, I know from experience that I can effectively hip shoot.
I have used my 6X42 in the dark. I spotted a suspicious looking animal body form some 125-150 yds. out long before legal light a couple of seasons ago. Turned out to be a cow elk. Using the scope, I found a total of 26 animals in the open in front of me. They never knew I was there. E if the "something aggressive" is not close enough to hurt you and you shoot it, it is NOT self defense. you cannot just shoot stuff for looking scary or suspicious. you can not provoke the attack and lethal force has to be the last resort.
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For a lightweight mtn. rifle..
I'll post pics soon of a Rem Ti 30-06 in route and destined to be scoped up with a 6x42 and a Rem Mountain Rifle .284 Win custom build also destined for a 6x42. Hubble........here we come!
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not the best pic, but here is my faux AK TI in .375 RUM with 6x36 CDS/LR dots. i did have my 6x42 on this rifle, but the crosshairs broke and i had to send it in. i prefer the 6x36 on it, because i'm trying to meet a weight limit. 6x42s are great scopes, but selecting optics is all about balancing the compromises, and size/weight are some compromises that can be tweaked ![[Linked Image]](http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/1sikpupi/375RUMLargejpg.jpg)
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Is that a Williams bottom metal unit ? SS ?
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it is a Badger Ordinance M4 in alloy
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not the best pic, but here is my faux AK TI in .375 RUM with 6x36 CDS/LR dots. i did have my 6x42 on this rifle, but the crosshairs broke and i had to send it in. i prefer the 6x36 on it, because i'm trying to meet a weight limit. 6x42s are great scopes, but selecting optics is all about balancing the compromises, and size/weight are some compromises that can be tweaked Am I correct in believing that is a Montana sling? If so, that must mean it does not weigh enough to compromise by putting a lighter sling on.
Al
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a better pic of the bottom metal. the stock does need inlet for it. ![[Linked Image]](http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/1sikpupi/100_1676Large.jpg) and yes, that ia a Montana sling. it weighs ~5 oz. with swivels. not a true lightweight, but neither is the rifle. i may have to look at slings to get sub-8# all up with this rig.
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I only have a little experience with these scopes, well actually only the 6x36 so far which I mounted on a faux Ti 243. I do like it a lot so far. But, just last week I got my first 6x42 and it really is a heck of a nice scope.
I do have one question though for those that have the 6x42, do you have any issues trying to mount it and get proper ring spacing? It seems on the 6x42 although longer overall then the 6x36, the front bell on the 6x42 makes the scope tube kind of short?? What do you use on a long action - Talleys?
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Looks sturdy. Been trying to find a Williams SS and it's damn near impossible. Sunny Hill makes a SS and a Alloy but they're pricy.
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the B.O. unit is kinda pricy also, but it is a heavy duty unit, for alloy. B.O. also makes steel M4 metal, but i don't think SS is on the menu
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Appreciate the info and I like that set-up too.
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What do you use on a long action - Talleys? Yes....and turn them whichever way you need to make it work.
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Thank you - I ordered a set today here on the campfire and will give them a go.
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