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What if SHTF means flesh eating zombies? Would this alter all or any of the above strategies?
Can zombies swim?
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Well, Mini 14s are as expensive as a lot of other things that I'd take over them -- but not necessarily bad. Dare I say, even as a vehement opponent of an AR, I'd take one over it simply for compatibility. Then there's always the SU16, which is nice because it takes AR mags, and is featherlight. My instructor at Pine Tech said he's seen people take the lowest-end Savage rifles out of the factory box and shoot 1 MOA with them. Go for it. Whatever you do, for SHTF, you're going to want a lot of ammo -- thousands of rifle rounds. Pistol, not as important, but have enough to fill all your mags twice is a rule I like. Speaking of mags, get lots of those, too!  Yo,..... for "SHTF" I want Water, SEED, and SOIL..... I'll let the hungry aggressors bring me alla' tha crap you're talking about. ....Probably have to start stacking the stuff up in a pit, before it's all played out. Ask the "Desert Rat Clan",.....I'm a straight up pacifist, Jack. GTC GTC
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Damn, good call. Didn't even think of the zombie apocolypse!
In that case, DBL barrel shotgun in 12ga.
Screw running, I'm killing me some zom-bags!
Hemi
Oh yeah- LOTS of ammo!
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I'm hoarding .22lr ammo, T.P., and tobacco. Figure it'll buy anything I need. and whiskey! Note to self: buy a half gallon of good whiskey every payday... Note to both of us....don't drink the SHTF whiskey until SHTF!!! Got a barrel on order.....S can't HTF until it is ready though...just sayin' so don't nobody start nuthin til they check with me first! 
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1. Wrist rocket and bags of marbles.
2. Rubber band gun
3. Rubber hatchet. Jeez,.... No LIP GLOSS !!! GTC
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Damn, good call. Didn't even think of the zombie apocolypse!
In that case, DBL barrel shotgun in 12ga.
Screw running, I'm killing me some zom-bags!
Hemi
Oh yeah- LOTS of ammo! Were you at work today? I drove by and thought about stopping, but due to the wind trying to wear the snow out I did my shopping and bugged out for home. I25 sucks btw.
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Got a barrel on order.....S can't HTF until it is ready though...just sayin' so don't nobody start nuthin til they check with me first! I hear tell that zombies love whiskey!
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We should be prepping in both areas, but the post wasn't about the food aspect. Heirloom seeds, a well with alternate power or a handpump (or other water access), and a good food store and storage ability are all just as important as guns. There are lots of kinda of SHTF, after all!
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The best idea I can come up with is bugging out in a large sailboat. You can be very close to land and still be out of the reach of most of the wandering crazies. You have a ton of mobility, you have little to no need for gas, you'll be a hell of lot safer than on land. Very few people will choose this option. Most will drive into the "country" until they run out of gas, then wander around from there. Last place I'd want to be is with the masses on the highway. With a sailboat, you can hide out in remote places, maybe find a country where the SHNHTF. From a defensive position, you have a pretty good view of boats coming your way, so you can prepare accordingly.
Pretty soon, with lot of folks out foraging, small and larger game will be hunted pretty much to extinction. However, I doubt that I will ever run out fish to catch and if I do, I can always move the boat somewhere else. I'll never run out of drinking water and disposing of waste isn't a problem. Its easy to fit out a sailboat with a few solar panels to charge batteries for lighting at night.
I'm not sure I could live on fish alone, or in a sailboat forever, but I think this plan has fewer holes in it than most I've heard. As long as the Coast Guard and Navy re still on the side of the free and brave, you'll be OK on the high seas. I'm somewhat concerned with a federal government run muck and a Hitler like regime coming to power.
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The best idea I can come up with is bugging out in a large sailboat. You can be very close to land and still be out of the reach of most of the wandering crazies. You have a ton of mobility, you have little to no need for gas, you'll be a hell of lot safer than on land. Very few people will choose this option. Most will drive into the "country" until they run out of gas, then wander around from there. Last place I'd want to be is with the masses on the highway. With a sailboat, you can hide out in remote places, maybe find a country where the SHNHTF. From a defensive position, you have a pretty good view of boats coming your way, so you can prepare accordingly.
Pretty soon, with lot of folks out foraging, small and larger game will be hunted pretty much to extinction. However, I doubt that I will ever run out fish to catch and if I do, I can always move the boat somewhere else. I'll never run out of drinking water and disposing of waste isn't a problem. Its easy to fit out a sailboat with a few solar panels to charge batteries for lighting at night.
I'm not sure I could live on fish alone, or in a sailboat forever, but I think this plan has fewer holes in it than most I've heard. As long as the Coast Guard and Navy re still on the side of the free and brave, you'll be OK on the high seas. I'm somewhat concerned with a federal government run muck and a Hitler like regime coming to power. Hoping THAT isn't your complete synopsis / answer to FOUR pages of legitimate answers. Knock off the RP campaigning,...and SPEAK a bit,...all ears here. really GTC
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This thread should shut the [bleep] DOWN,.....
the OP is running a Ron Paul Campaign thread now,....and hasn't the BALLS to respond to a CHITLOAD of good advice, and honest inquiry.
Bored,...plumb stupid,....or something worse ?
I dunno,....but the scenario STINKS
GTC Some of us have a life shipmate . . . Did your buddy Sean Hannity put you up to this?
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Issue I see with the sailboat bugout is what if New Orleans, Miami et al become the new Mogadishu's.
Caribbean and Gulf may be one giant pirate alley....
Come to think of it, history repeating itself....
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We should be prepping in both areas, but the post wasn't about the food aspect. Heirloom seeds, a well with alternate power or a handpump (or other water access), and a good food store and storage ability are all just as important as guns. There are lots of kinda of SHTF, after all! Exactly. I've done plenty of reading on the subject but was just trying to focus on the fire power part of the equation. I have learned a few things though reading all the replies. I better get over to my "Ron Paul Campaign Thread" though . . . sounds like someone is busting a gut. laffin' j/k about "laffin"
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No, ...
you "Survival Gunsels'" scare the crap outta' regular folks, sometimes.
THAT straight up, and honest enough for you,...Buck ?
Now answer the [bleep]' questions
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We should be prepping in both areas, but the post wasn't about the food aspect. Heirloom seeds, a well with alternate power or a handpump (or other water access), and a good food store and storage ability are all just as important as guns. There are lots of kinda of SHTF, after all! Exactly. I've done plenty of reading on the subject but was just trying to focus on the fire power part of the equation. I have learned a few things though reading all the replies. I better get over to my "Ron Paul Campaign Thread" though . . . sounds like someone is busting a gut. laffin' j/k about "laffin" Sounds like you're really getting to [bleep] up, to me,.... GTC
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How does it feel to be an Army on One shipmate?
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while we're readin/posting on, this thread.
who, is prepared for trading for goods or services with some type of monitary funds ?
stock piling silver or gold bars ?
old us silver money with a face value, but worth something since it's made of silver ?
there are some who plan on terrible things to happen, and those that hope and pray nothing ever happens, but if it does are totaly unprepared.
me...
i'm prepared to some degree, but alas, 1 man with family members isn't enough for a hoard, or armed forces.
i know if push comes to shove, i'll take as many with meas i can, before i die !
now blue helmets ....
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while we're readin/posting on, this thread.
who, is prepared for trading for goods or services with some type of monitary funds ?
stock piling silver or gold bars ?
old us silver money with a face value, but worth something since it's made of silver ?
there are some who plan on terrible things to happen, and those that hope and pray nothing ever happens, but if it does are totaly unprepared.
me...
i'm prepared to some degree, but alas, 1 man with family members isn't enough for a hoard, or armed forces.
i know if push comes to shove, i'll take as many with meas i can, before i die !
now blue helmets ....
This is where I disagree with all the Gold and Silver advisors like Hannity, Gordon, Lavin, and Beck. If the paper money thing fails, and someone offers you "alleged" gold or siver coins, could you be 100% sure it is actually gold or silver . . . much less of what purity? Like Dave Ramsey says, forget about the gold in a crisis.
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WGAF what you "Agree" with ?
You setting up to replace BCB. or TRH.
Answer some questions, azzwhole
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