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Don't even go there with "take an extra scope on your trip" comments. That doesn't fly with me. Just curious, but why not? Not suggesting the OP carries it with him while hunting, but I don't see why a spare pre zero'd scope back at camp isn't good insurance against Mr Murphy.. Back in camp, yes. You still need irons on the gun, IMO.
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Back in camp, yes. You still need irons on the gun, IMO.
Like I said previously, I wouldn't disagree with that...
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Don't even go there with "take an extra scope on your trip" comments. That doesn't fly with me. Just curious, but why not? Not suggesting the OP carries it with him while hunting, but I don't see why a spare pre zero'd scope back at camp isn't good insurance against Mr Murphy.. Pete: It's just that I wouldn't trust sticking another scope on the rifle then possibly getting a shot on game. How do you KNOW that the replacement scope is on? Simple, you don't and I don't care what any manufacturer says. In addition, supppose you're several miles from camp, and happen to notice your scope is fogged over, or you accidentally took a spill - can't see thru it. What are ya gonna do? As I wrote, open sights are cheap insurance. I just had a set put on my Extreme Weather, .270 WSM for about $170. I'm gonna be protected on our next sheep hunt. Ak. hunting isn't a short, weekend, inexpensive event, even for we residents like it is in the Lower-48. Those are my reasons. B.I.F.
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I just ordered a Remington XCR II in 375 H&H. It will be here this weekend. It does have open sights. By the way I used Talley QR mounts on my Leupold 1.5 - 5x on my 500 Jeffery. I've had it on and off about a dozen times. It's always within 1/2" at 100 yards when I put it back on. I'll either bring both rifles or bring both scopes plus irons. And yes I posted it on AR too ...
Thanks for all of the great responses, never too old to learn ...
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I just bought a Rem 700 XCR (not the II) in 375 H&H a couple months ago. Looks like we'll have very similar setups. Same rifle/rings, but I put a 2-7X32 scope on mine. Good compromise between a 1-5 and 3-9 IMO. Also has open sights as well if I need them.
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I used the leupold 1.75-6X for most of my hunting in Alaska. It was fine in the alders and "gathered" enough light for evening shots. I never figured I wanted an illuminated scope for bear hunting. If its too dark to see the reticle, it's probably too dark to go poking holes in a bear.
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For years, I've used a B&L Balvar in 1.5x6 on my .375. I had no problems at all, but the scope is a straight tube with no objective bell, so I got to thinking (misguided?) that I might need a little more light gathering.
So, when I found a used Zeiss Conquest 1.8 x 5.5 x 38 on Ebay, I bought it. It is brighter than the B&L and has that big Conquest eye box. I love the Conquest in the 3x9 and 2.5x8, so we'll see how its little brother fares on POW blackies this May.
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I used the leupold 1.75-6X for most of my hunting in Alaska. It was fine in the alders and "gathered" enough light for evening shots. I never figured I wanted an illuminated scope for bear hunting. If its too dark to see the reticle, it's probably too dark to go poking holes in a bear. I like the the Leupold 1.5x - 5x I have on my 500 Jeffery a lot as well.
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Trijicon has come out with a new version of their 1-4X24 scope that doesn't have the bell on the front end so it should be usable on more (longer) actions BUT the eye relief is listed at only 3.2" which is pretty darn short for heavy calibers. Why they chose to fix the mounting problem on this new model but then only have 3.2" eye relief is just disappointing. http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3b.php?pid=TR24The problem I see with the illuminated Leupold is that the electronics or battery can fail just when you need it whereas the Trijicon illumination is pretty fail proof.
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Broke down and bought the Leupold VX-R 2-7x33mm illuminated with the metric FireDot 4 reticle... It just seemed perfect for the range of hunting I plan to do with the 375 H&H ... I'll let you all know how it works out. http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/vx-r-riflescopes/vx-r-2-7x33mm/
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I used the leupold 1.75-6X for most of my hunting in Alaska. yep; a much superior scope to a 1x5
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The 1.5x5 will be perfect IMO. I have never hunted Brown bear in AK, but I have been there and have a relative who is a licensed guide there. Another who is an assistant guide. The distances are perfect for this scope. I do own a Leupold 1.5x5 and Brown bear range is well within the limitations and capabilities of this scope. IMO.
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Here's a picture of my Remington XCR II 375 H&H with the Leupold VX-R 2-7x33mm illuminated. The slip on Limbsaver recoil pad is there to make up for my abnormally long 14 1/2" LOP (no Neanderthal comments!) Going to take it to the range for a spin this weekend if the weather's good.
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Nice rig you have there! I used a leupold 2-7x33 on my bear hunt and never took it off 2 power. Ended up taking my shot at a whopping 33 feet! Hope you have a great hunt. Good luck!
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Amazing how complicated people can make aiming at an animal that will weigh at least 800 pounds and won't be any more than 200 yards away.
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I dunno, as bad as I've seen a lot of folks shoot at the range, amplified by buck fever....
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Amazing how complicated people can make aiming at an animal that will weigh at least 800 pounds and won't be any more than 200 yards away. I hunted with the same Rem 700 BDL in 270 with the same Redfield tracker 3-9x scope for 30 years before I handed it down to my son. Shot everything from crows to javelina, deer, elk, 7 black bears and 1 grizzly with it, all of that without anyone guiding me. I'm entitled to buy a new rifle once in awhile.
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Probably the main reason I see folks miss or misplace shots on Brown bears is because they have the power on their scopes turned up too high. IF YOU HAVE TO MAGINIFY ANY DANGEROUS GAME MORE THAN 2 1/2 TIMES YOU NEED TO STALK CLOSER !!
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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