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i've been studying how to make chainmaille just as a hobby, I'm wondering if riveted chainmaille with thick rings could provide decent defense in a fight with a cougar or wolf or small bear... I think there teeth and claws would break on the steel? just something to think about. Even if a brown bear got you down the steel would atleast prevent him from ripping you apart.. althought it would leave nasty bruises, i'd rather have bruises then deep cuts.


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I'd rather be able to maneuver and shoot or run away which I doubt I could if I was wearing a steel suit.


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Originally Posted by maarty
I'd rather be able to maneuver and shoot or run away which I doubt I could if I was wearing a steel suit.


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I'd rather be able to maneuver and shoot or run away which I doubt I could if I was wearing a steel suit.


Maarty,

Click on the guys profile and look at some of his other posts...

Somewhere, a village has lost its idiot!

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Pete, I have a slightly different point of view. I see it as the campfire gaining one lol


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They're making shark suits out of it. If it'll stop a shark's teeth, it should handle a cat.

I don't know if this suit is made to protect from a shark or to wrap a shark. It (the suit) costs $23,000. The model is extra.
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I presonally think a Cougar wearing Chain Maille would be alot more interesting.....See sample above....


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I would have to agree. Put the suit on the cougar, feed it and see if it keeps coming back for more. I'm considering baiting options. Any ideas? I'm thinking a few $100 bills on the back step would keep it coming around. Maybe a new pair of stilettos each week? Flinch


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Originally Posted by Polska
i've been studying how to make chainmaille just as a hobby, I'm wondering if riveted chainmaille with thick rings could provide decent defense in a fight with a cougar or wolf or small bear... I think there teeth and claws would break on the steel? just something to think about. Even if a brown bear got you down the steel would atleast prevent him from ripping you apart.. althought it would leave nasty bruises, i'd rather have bruises then deep cuts.


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Originally Posted by Polska
i've been studying how to make chainmaille just as a hobby, I'm wondering if riveted chainmaille with thick rings could provide decent defense in a fight with a cougar or wolf or small bear... I think there teeth and claws would break on the steel? just something to think about. Even if a brown bear got you down the steel would atleast prevent him from ripping you apart.. althought it would leave nasty bruises, i'd rather have bruises then deep cuts.

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Originally Posted by Polska
i've been studying how to make chainmaille just as a hobby, I'm wondering if riveted chainmaille with thick rings could provide decent defense in a fight with a cougar or wolf or small bear... I think there teeth and claws would break on the steel? just something to think about. Even if a brown bear got you down the steel would atleast prevent him from ripping you apart.. althought it would leave nasty bruises, i'd rather have bruises then deep cuts.


with the large bears it aint just bruises, still gonna break bones and can still rip your arm off.....unreal the amount of damage that can be done even without teeth breaking skin...have heard the bite force of a large griz is 1800psi.....chain mail will not cushion you from that......

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I have seen horse trailers and campers where bears have ripped doors off hinges etc. Chain mail isn't going to slow them down any, just you.

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The mental images of this are just getting better and better.


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Originally Posted by maarty
I'd rather be able to maneuver and shoot or run away which I doubt I could if I was wearing a steel suit.


I'm not worried about weight, they don't even weigh that much, and if you make your own you can make as heavy or light as you want... I would make it light duty to protect say from a looter or thug with a pocket knife or a wolve or cougars teeth and claws. Or even a stray dog.

I know for a bear your done... this would be for LIGHT armor... protection from stray dogs or looters or thugs with knives or slashing weapons...

this is just a hobby, I don't plan on wearing this to work every day or to test it out against a grizzly... I think it would work good against a cougar or cougar sized animal with teeh and/or claws. Chainmaille is surprisingly easy to make too, and cheap.

I'm not worried about weight I weigh 305 pounds and i'm a powerlifter so I have a lot of muscle on me... however even for me I would not want to hike 5 miles with one on. This would only be a [bleep] hit the fan shirt if there was ever anarchy in this country and I needed some basic crude body armor against man or beast

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i've been studying how to make chainmaille just as a hobby, I'm wondering if riveted chainmaille with thick rings could provide decent defense in a fight with a cougar or wolf or small bear... I think there teeth and claws would break on the steel? just something to think about. Even if a brown bear got you down the steel would atleast prevent him from ripping you apart.. althought it would leave nasty bruises, i'd rather have bruises then deep cuts.


with the large bears it aint just bruises, still gonna break bones and can still rip your arm off.....unreal the amount of damage that can be done even without teeth breaking skin...have heard the bite force of a large griz is 1800psi.....chain mail will not cushion you from that......


I'm not saying I would wear it and think I can stop a grizzly with it... I was just saying that it would be better to be attacked by a griz with one on, then naked flesh exposed.

This would be geared more toward stray dogs, large coyotes, wolves, cougars, people with knives.... etc. Bears I agree it wouldn't really do much


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I presonally think a Cougar wearing Chain Maille would be alot more interesting.....See sample above....


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
They're making shark suits out of it. If it'll stop a shark's teeth, it should handle a cat.

I don't know if this suit is made to protect from a shark or to wrap a shark. It (the suit) costs $23,000. The model is extra.
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ITs just standard chainmail they probably use titanium instead of steel so it's lighter and more rust resistant... hence the higher cost

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i've been studying how to make chainmaille just as a hobby, I'm wondering if riveted chainmaille with thick rings could provide decent defense in a fight with a cougar or wolf or small bear... I think there teeth and claws would break on the steel? just something to think about. Even if a brown bear got you down the steel would atleast prevent him from ripping you apart.. althought it would leave nasty bruises, i'd rather have bruises then deep cuts.


with the large bears it aint just bruises, still gonna break bones and can still rip your arm off.....unreal the amount of damage that can be done even without teeth breaking skin...have heard the bite force of a large griz is 1800psi.....chain mail will not cushion you from that......


I'm not saying I would wear it and think I can stop a grizzly with it... I was just saying that it would be better to be attacked by a griz with one on, then naked flesh exposed.

This would be geared more toward stray dogs, large coyotes, wolves, cougars, people with knives.... etc. Bears I agree it wouldn't really do much


only works against slashing cuts with knives.....if the knife has enough of a taper it will go through chain mail.....it was originally used to protect yah from slashing with a sword, if you were stabbed with a sword or shot with an arrow you were still [bleep].....


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i've been studying how to make chainmaille just as a hobby, I'm wondering if riveted chainmaille with thick rings could provide decent defense in a fight with a cougar or wolf or small bear... I think there teeth and claws would break on the steel? just something to think about. Even if a brown bear got you down the steel would atleast prevent him from ripping you apart.. althought it would leave nasty bruises, i'd rather have bruises then deep cuts.


with the large bears it aint just bruises, still gonna break bones and can still rip your arm off.....unreal the amount of damage that can be done even without teeth breaking skin...have heard the bite force of a large griz is 1800psi.....chain mail will not cushion you from that......


I'm not saying I would wear it and think I can stop a grizzly with it... I was just saying that it would be better to be attacked by a griz with one on, then naked flesh exposed.

This would be geared more toward stray dogs, large coyotes, wolves, cougars, people with knives.... etc. Bears I agree it wouldn't really do much


only works against slashing cuts with knives.....if the knife has enough of a taper it will go through chain mail.....it was originally used to protect yah from slashing with a sword, if you were stabbed with a sword or shot with an arrow you were still [bleep].....


to a certain extent you are right... although well made maille is worn by shark divers and can stop small to medium sharks from puncturing thru it... if it can prevent a small bull shark from biting thru it with 1800 pounds of bite force, I think it can stop a puny 150 pound human from stabbing me... i'm not gonna bet my life on it though. I think it would work good against a punk witha knife or a stray dog or cougar or wolf/large coyote even a small black bear... would help a lot. I can test it before I wear it.


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Originally Posted by Partagas
I have seen horse trailers and campers where bears have ripped doors off hinges etc. Chain mail isn't going to slow them down any, just you.


this is more geared toward a person(s) with knife, or stray dog or wolf or large coyote or cougar... not toward a big bear, I was just saying it could probably LESSEN the injury by the bear.. depending on the bear and type of attack.


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with the large bears it aint just bruises, still gonna break bones and can still rip your arm off.....unreal the amount of damage that can be done even without teeth breaking skin...have heard the bite force of a large griz is 1800psi.....chain mail will not cushion you from that......


I'm not saying I would wear it and think I can stop a grizzly with it... I was just saying that it would be better to be attacked by a griz with one on, then naked flesh exposed.

This would be geared more toward stray dogs, large coyotes, wolves, cougars, people with knives.... etc. Bears I agree it wouldn't really do much


only works against slashing cuts with knives.....if the knife has enough of a taper it will go through chain mail.....it was originally used to protect yah from slashing with a sword, if you were stabbed with a sword or shot with an arrow you were still [bleep].....


to a certain extent you are right... although well made maille is worn by shark divers and can stop small to medium sharks from puncturing thru it... if it can prevent a small bull shark from biting thru it with 1800 pounds of bite force, I think it can stop a puny 150 pound human from stabbing me... i'm not gonna bet my life on it though. I think it would work good against a punk witha knife or a stray dog or cougar or wolf/large coyote even a small black bear... would help a lot. I can test it before I wear it.


there is a reason they went to toughened leather/composite armor.......cant imagine wearing the chit all day is all ic an say......carrying a gun makes more sense.....


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